No more movie tickets for me

Not to flog a dead horse but

Everytime I load the game my little goblin brain goes "ooooo shiny tickets"

Then I instantly have to stop myself and think that after over 8 years playing, occasionally spending actual money and enjoying my 2 movie tickets a day

That no. There are are no free shiny tickets anymore.

Please be swift in your efforts to remove the shining tickets completely from farms that don't want to accept the terms!!

A purchase will get you the rewards in the same style like before, instant without the need to watch the Ads. I will talk to the Team how the System is build when the rewards are disabled for the 90 Days. To my understanding the Data sharing only happens if you click on the pink ticket and the connection to the ad partner is created.


Btw. we updated the ingame Popup with the exact info what Data we collect with this =)


Once again we will not sell it, licence it or do anything at all with your Data. The Ad partner use device data for the ads, nothing else is happening behind the scenes or in the background.

... if you don't do anything with our data, then why does clicking or tapping that accept button for 'just' sharing those device identifiers [which is NOT a small feat] open a setting on that device that allows MUCH MUCH more?? The moment someone taps accept, this game is changing a very important setting on that device WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE of the user and WITHOUT INFORMING them of exactly that ...



you can now SAY you aren't doing anything really ...but in the background much more is going on than the eye can see

and also, as stated by Frog ... what if I accept on iOS but not on Android? How does the game handle this? Curious...

Allowing them to collect our data, allows them to sell it. So many companies are doing this. They can collect your email, your phone number, your address, your age, your gender, etc. And sell that information to others. There is a huge profit for this venture. So, I will continue to opt out and actually, I'm not heartbroken that I'm no longer getting the gifts. Safety is more important to me.

You won`t see any ads on your payed Farm. For example i have the Farpass active on my farm and that allone gives me the 4 Ad Rewards without watching the ads =).

Hello jusme, this is only assumption from your side, could we please stop spreading wrong infomation? I have already linked the exact supercell.com/en/partner-opt-out/, there you will find everything you need to know.


Thank you! =)  

I have three paid farms & they all get ads if I click the ticket.

It never amazes me the various directions a discussion will go within a thread. BostonGirl asked a fascinating question in the beginning of her post, and I will await the answer from Supercell.

Then her speculation about how "our data is far more valuable than any in-game cash payment we could make" makes me really think hard about my $upporting $upercell by watching their ad$ within the game.  Thank you BG.

EDIT: As of this moment, there are 3064 views for this thread.

So confirmation from the Team. Data sharing decline means that you don`t have access to the Ad Feature at all. Clicking accept enables it.

Data sharing is active when you click on the pink ticket AND see the Ads, but it is not active when you get the rewards directly.

I hope this removes any confusion. It is possible that we will improve the feature in the future to make it more clear. Like removing the pink ticket fully from your farm when you decline Data sharing.

Thanks!

Thank you, Chris.  

I would like to be very clear about one thing though.  You said in part “Please don`t assume something I try my best to be as transparent as possible and help to relive some of the stress that this generated.”  My skepticism has nothing to do with you and your efforts, Chris.  You’ve been doing a very good job getting back to us and I certainly appreciate it.  I am very aware that you can only tell us
1. what SC shares with you; and
2. what, of that, SC authorises you to share. 
If my posts have in any way made it seem that I thought you weren’t being transparent, I unequivocally apologise. It was not what I meant. 

This is about SC and the permissions the company is seeking.  SC confirms that the decline blocks the whole feature (ads, data sharing, movie ticket loot).  Conversely, the acceptance gives access to only part of the feature (movie ticket loot is enabled, ads and data sharing are blocked).  Interesting how shutting off parts of the feature becomes a viable option at the point at which wide, far-reaching permissions have been given to the company.

There is a lack of balance in that equation and it is not a great leap to see exactly the advantage to the receiver and the disadvantage to the giver.  Could SC not design the feature so that the permissions are not required until they are absolutely necessary for the feature to work?  The people of Earth have sent people to the moon.  I think this is possible.

I believe 🤞 that this will be my last post to this topic.  I’m grateful for the clarification that has come through the many contributions but given the available information I think there is little value in continuing.

Once again, thank you, Chris.

I want to opt out too, and I can't find anywhere how to do it. I did read the privacy policy and wasn't very concerned about it. It seemed to be pretty much what everybody else is doing.  Since then I have changed my mind.

I felt like I was the only person who opted into the tickets and was wondering what everyone else knew that I didn't. I'm probably the least technology-savvy person playing. I just began to wonder if getting a stick of dynamite was worth it. I feel a bit reassured by the explanations.

I agree Cowslips, I too do not use social media at all.

My Reasoning

Part 1
1. Supercell (SC) has a parent company, Tencent (TC).
2. That parent company is massive. Think Chinese Proctor and Gamble. It owns and/or invests in dozens, likely hundreds, of other companies which dabble in many industries. Gaming, clothing, banking, food, cars, luxury goods, household goods, furniture, and on and on. All those companies probably advertise.
3. Eight years ago, when it was a privately held company with a European-type privacy culture, SC asked me for my data. I wanted to play their game so I said yes. I continued saying yes as the “ask” changed and got wider, and after SC was purchased for billions. SC is now asking me for permission to share that data.
4. SC will only share my data if I watch ads, and only to the ad companies (their “partners”).
5. Problem is, I don’t know who those ad companies are and I don’t know what their privacy policies are. So once my data leaves SC, I don’t know what is being done with it - including further sharing. I refer you to Nos. 1 and 2 of this part. And that’s just the beginning of the companies that could get the data because we haven’t even arrived in the West yet.
6. We, including SC, are relying on all parties to adhere to contract terms and be above board. The more parties that are added to the equation, the more the odds increase that some bad actor will break the rules. Consider 4 unique ads per day x 365 days.

Part 2
1. SC does not ask me to watch ads if I made a purchase. Because I don’t have to watch the ads, my data is not shared.
2. Watching ads or not watching ads, SC requires that I give them permission to share my data.
3. Now, the no-ads perk only lasts for 30 days after the purchase. (This is to encourage purchase of the FarmPass, I would wager, which is a smart tactic.) After 30 days, my free pass ends and I have to watch ads again if I want the freebies.
3. I do not buy the FarmPass. I do make other periodic purchases. In fact I just made one.
4. So come January 15th, 2023 or thereabouts, if I gave permission, then became accustomed to clicking on the tickets again, I could very easily find myself watching an ad because my no-ads perk expired and I’d forgotten; and having given SC the permissions, the ads are enabled and my data is gone to a “partner” I don’t know.

Part 3
SC clearly does not need the permissions if I am on the no-ads perk. So ask yourself why they are being required anyway. If they can turn off the requirement to watch ads, they can turn off the unnecessary permissions. Yet they haven’t.

Part 4 - Pure Speculation
Listen, I would not be the least bit surprised if it turned out that members of SC argued for the no-ads-if-you-purchase perk. If you have to increase revenue in an ageing game somehow, and you have a parent company to answer to, but everything in you rebels against exposing your loyal players to third parties, this is what might happen. The other part of the compromise might have been “Fine. Do that. But only on condition that you get the permissions anyway.”

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DISCLAIMERS
Even though it might seem that way, I am not bashing SC. The minds behind the company are brilliant and deserving of admiration in many things. I am however bashing this new policy. Company policies determine company culture, and we all know about slippery slopes; or, perhaps more aptly given the season on the farm, a snowball rolling down a hill.

Also, I am in no way criticising persons who have decided to watch the ads and/or give the permissions. We all have our own levels of tolerance. For instance, I have a good friend who is admirably meticulous about the food she consumes while I tend to go the “what doesn’t kill you” route. We’re both content in our decisions.

And FINALLY, I am extremely grateful for this forum and everybody behind it and on it. I cannot adequately express how much. Because of it, we can have cohesive discussions that allow us all to make these kinds of decisions, and more. None of that could properly happen on the (dreaded) social media sites where everyone has to speak in sound bites and contributions are lost to the avalanche 1.2 seconds after being posted.

May everyone have a great weekend and a warm and wonderful Christmas Day.