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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 17, 2021 15:58:12 GMT
The RSS is flooded with them for the last couple of days. What’s going on? Even low level farms sell them. Are there more panel farms? Do players need more coins? I sell my surplus panels at default price nowadays.
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Post by Cowslips on Dec 17, 2021 20:48:52 GMT
The RSS is flooded with them for the last couple of days. What’s going on? Even low level farms sell them. Are there more panel farms? Do players need more coins? I sell my surplus panels at default price nowadays. Team Hay Day has been made aware of the issue with wood panels. I've been noticing that there's been something of an imbalance with panels for a while. It's perhaps not helped by them appearing on the free Farm Pass road every month. Rings and blankets are rather different, as they can be made by players.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 17, 2021 21:53:46 GMT
Can’t imagine that the farm pass has anything to do with it, the numbers offered in the RSS are high, they exceed the numbers in pass by far. When I click on a farm which offers the panels some have multiple adds with 10 panels each. It’s getting hard to buy even pumpkins 😉
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Post by janilee on Dec 17, 2021 22:51:15 GMT
There's something going on. I've always suspected that the DD shows you EMs you already get a lot of, and I have a panel farm, but this is ridiculous. My baby farm is not a panel farm, and I still see panels everywhere.
I can't give them away, when before they sold as soon as I advertised them.
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Post by janilee on Dec 17, 2021 23:11:44 GMT
Also...I think the fact that so many panels are for sale in the DD is causing players who had been hoarding them to sell them, since there's no point in wasting barn space keeping them when you can just buy them when you need them. And good luck trading them.
This is probably making the oversupply even worse.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Dec 18, 2021 5:24:38 GMT
I agree, there are panels everywhere so why would you give them barn room.
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Post by MacCoinnich on Dec 18, 2021 5:56:23 GMT
It's a shame one can't take two wood panels and put them together to form a plank.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Dec 18, 2021 7:59:17 GMT
It's a shame one can't take two wood panels and put them together to form a plank. What a good idea🤣🤣
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Post by Warios on Dec 18, 2021 14:28:04 GMT
I have come up with my own theory of why so many panels are on the Daily Dirt. I know I have only been playing a short while compared to everyone here, just over 3 months but i do enjoy learning the details about how the game mechanics work. When I first stared to play in September I read about wheating and the benefits so that's what I focused on for development. (kind of like barching but with a hoe and a scythe). After a bit I found out I had a Tape farm, could not find a bolt or a plank anywhere.
The people in the hood I was in at the time told me about how the game works to give you more of what you already have, to entice RSS selling of excess or diamond purchasing to make up for the missing items. I did my own research of this, Google is your Friend, and read information on rare/common drops and decided to see if I could change what my common drop was. So what i started to do was keep about 25% of my tapes compared to planks and sell off any tapes I was getting above this. Then rebuying them when I had collected enough of the "rare" items needed for an upgrade, after about 4 weeks I no longer had to sell of any EM's since planks were now my common EM drop. I UG my barn about 24 hours ago, once done I had 0 bolts, 18 planks or so and 0 tape. Currently I buy any bolts I can find on the RSS (super rare for me), trade excess tools for bolts, and top up tape from the DD when it is the last thing I need for an UG.
Now with the abundance of panels on the DD, I believe that with so many players getting free panels from the farm pass, this has made many farms to have panels as their common, hence getting more panels from random drops from harvesting and pet/farm animals. And this now results in the DD to have an abundance of Panels for sale, since the common drop of many farms has been shifted to them.
You can now take off your tinfoil hat and resume reading the thread!
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 18, 2021 14:41:03 GMT
Lol, I do like your theory, I have tried that too, but always came to the conclusion that farms have a specific item that drops more. I have wood farms, so it’s “raining” panels, planks and mallets.
If I find the time I will run your “experiment” once more to see if I can change a rare item I to the most dropped item.
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Post by Warios on Dec 18, 2021 14:55:01 GMT
Lol, I do like your theory, I have tried that too, but always came to the conclusion that farms have a specific item that drops more. I have wood farms, so it’s “raining” panels, planks and mallets. If I find the time I will run your “experiment” once more to see if I can change a rare item I to the most dropped item. I did it for my silo as well, extremely small sample size, ie: 1 farm, but for me it worked.
I get to this point and when I have EM room near reset just grab panels I need from the DD.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 18, 2021 15:08:05 GMT
The only thing is that once the rare item becomes the common item, one of the other common items becomes the rare one. When you’re higher level you need to rely on trading with people that have surplus of the item that is rare for you. Easier once you found reliable traders.
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Post by janilee on Dec 18, 2021 18:40:50 GMT
Lol, I do like your theory, I have tried that too, but always came to the conclusion that farms have a specific item that drops more. That is also my experience. I once traded a big stash of bolts for planks (in the pre-trading limit days). Planks were so rare for me, and bolts so common, when I found a high level player who wanted to trade planks for bolts, I traded every bolt I had. I ended up with something like 1000 planks and zero bolts. It did not change my drop rate of bolts. I still got over 20 a day. And I soon ended up with a ton of bolts and hardly any planks again. My common drop item for LEMs did change, but I don't think it was anything I did. Deeds used to be super rare for me, and mallets very common. Then for a long time, I sold every LEM I got, since I was fully expanded. When I needed LEMs again, with new land added to the game, it was deeds that were my most common item, and mallets the rarest.
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Post by greenleaf on Dec 19, 2021 2:47:52 GMT
When you have traders making huge trades, you get this imbalance of goods. Some players have over 10 farms, use them up with trees and bushes, then abandon them and start new ones. And trades of 1000 rings for 1500 pillows and similar trades by several hundred people results in the mess we see now. And it's worse when people buy and sell goods using paypal.
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Post by janilee on Dec 19, 2021 4:36:31 GMT
I don't think big traders or people who sell stuff for money are the cause of this. Why does it matter if one player has 10 farms? From a game point of view, it doesn't matter if those farms are owned by 10 players or one. And we've had big traders and massive farm conglomerates from the beginning.
The number of each type of expansion item that drops in the game has to be equal, or this happens. SC knows this. They've been doing this a long time.
I think the cause of this is...not something SC is doing.
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Post by janilee on Dec 19, 2021 5:49:52 GMT
So I'm trying an experiment with my baby farm, a bolt farm. I sold every bolt (103), leaving me with 0 bolts, 5 planks, and 90 tapes.
After some wheating, I have: 10 bolts, 5 planks, 90 tapes.
Every barn item that dropped was a bolt.
Small sample size, of course, but this has been my experience in general.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 19, 2021 7:19:52 GMT
So I'm trying an experiment with my baby farm, a bolt farm. I sold every bolt (103), leaving me with 0 bolts, 5 planks, and 90 tapes. After some wheating, I have: 10 bolts, 5 planks, 90 tapes. Every barn item that dropped was a bolt. Small sample size, of course, but this has been my experience in general. Have the same experience. And I agree, something else is wrong. Low level farms selling multiple RSS slots with 10 panels, not just 1 slot.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 19, 2021 19:35:14 GMT
I try to sell my panels voor 750 coins per 10 items, that takes multiple wheat adds to attract buyers. Wonder how long it takes before players sell this amount, and I see a lot when you open the panel adds. Attachments:
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Post by donkeyfan on Dec 19, 2021 19:50:37 GMT
ducktown2021I think they don't care. At least Greg or Tom will buy that stuff.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 19, 2021 19:55:46 GMT
ducktown2021 I think they don't care. At least Greg or Tom will buy that stuff. I understand, but meanwhile it’s blocking the space in your RSS and your not able to sell other stuff. And Tom and Greg don’t show up that often. 😉
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Post by Warios on Dec 19, 2021 20:03:03 GMT
So I'm trying an experiment with my baby farm, a bolt farm. I sold every bolt (103), leaving me with 0 bolts, 5 planks, and 90 tapes. After some wheating, I have: 10 bolts, 5 planks, 90 tapes. Every barn item that dropped was a bolt. Small sample size, of course, but this has been my experience in general. It took me a few weeks to see any changes to the drop rates of the different barn em's. Not saying this is 100% the way it works, but what i have seen in my limited time playing. also on other thing i was thinking about on this topic, when i was working to get my common item to planks for the barn, i did it when my account was a couple of weeks old, might have been a factor in what i saw transpire.
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Post by donkeyfan on Dec 19, 2021 20:15:26 GMT
ducktown2021 I think they don't care. At least Greg or Tom will buy that stuff. I understand, but meanwhile it’s blocking the space in your RSS and your not able to sell other stuff. And Tom and Greg don’t show up that often. 😉 Don't get me wrong, I'm also not amused about the wood panel invasion. Especially it blocks the DD and of course RSS. (Does not apply for me, but your picture shows otherwise)
The thing is, I don't understand why SC does not react with a countermeasure, I'm sure they could if they would. Meanwhile there are so many complaints about that matter that it's impossible in my opinion they aren't aware of this. I can't comprehend their ignorance since the problem exists already a long time.
And we are not alone. In the German HayDay forum farmer also complain about the wood panel glut. But nothing happens...
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Post by ducktown2021 on Dec 19, 2021 20:23:33 GMT
Thrust me, SC has been made aware of the issue with the panel flood in the RSS. See 2nd posting in this thread. They will come up with something in the end, but we don’t know how long. Meanwhile we have to deal with it. I don’t mind all the adds, I do mind the reason that there are so many the last couple of days.
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Post by donkeyfan on Dec 19, 2021 20:38:31 GMT
Right ducktown2021, they ARE aware, I read the posting von Cowslips, but I forgot it. OK, here we are. We have to be patient and deal with it, as you said.
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Post by lynnk2021 on Dec 20, 2021 0:25:26 GMT
...I know I have only been playing a short while compared to everyone here, just over 3 months but i do enjoy learning the details about how the game mechanics work. When I first stared to play in September I read about wheating and the benefits so that's what I focused on for development. (kind of like barching but with a hoe and a scythe). After a bit I found out I had a Tape farm, could not find a bolt or a plank anywhere. The people in the hood I was in at the time told me about how the game works to give you more of what you already have, to entice RSS selling of excess or diamond purchasing to make up for the missing items. I did my own research of this, Google is your Friend, and read information on rare/common drops and decided to see if I could change what my common drop was. So what i started to do was keep about 25% of my tapes compared to planks and sell off any tapes I was getting above this. Then rebuying them when I had collected enough of the "rare" items needed for an upgrade, after about 4 weeks I no longer had to sell of any EM's since planks were now my common EM drop. I UG my barn about 24 hours ago, once done I had 0 bolts, 18 planks or so and 0 tape. Currently I buy any bolts I can find on the RSS (super rare for me), trade excess tools for bolts, and top up tape from the DD when it is the last thing I need for an UG.
Now with the abundance of panels on the DD, I believe that with so many players getting free panels from the farm pass, this has made many farms to have panels as their common, hence getting more panels from random drops from harvesting and pet/farm animals. And this now results in the DD to have an abundance of Panels for sale, since the common drop of many farms has been shifted to them.
You can now take off your tinfoil hat and resume reading the thread! First of all, congratulations for identifying that the game assigned you as a duct tape farm and then shifting to a planks farm. It's amHayzing how you've overcome the asymmetric drops. justhayday.boards.net/thread/687/when-upgrade-barn-silo?page=1&scrollTo=15461
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Post by greenleaf on Dec 22, 2021 21:08:37 GMT
I don't think big traders or people who sell stuff for money are the cause of this. Why does it matter if one player has 10 farms? From a game point of view, it doesn't matter if those farms are owned by 10 players or one. And we've had big traders and massive farm conglomerates from the beginning. The number of each type of expansion item that drops in the game has to be equal, or this happens. SC knows this. They've been doing this a long time. I think the cause of this is...not something SC is doing. When I say traders, I refer to bot farms.
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Post by janilee on Dec 23, 2021 0:26:24 GMT
I think it's not just bot farms. We've had bot farms from the beginning. They don't change the ratio of items that drop.
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Post by greenleaf on Dec 23, 2021 2:00:07 GMT
I think it's not just bot farms. We've had bot farms from the beginning. They don't change the ratio of items that drop. No, but they can create them. There are folks/hackers... that run bot farms, create things that sell, and sell them... for real money.. most use PayPal. But there are other venues for trading real currency.
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Post by janilee on Dec 24, 2021 16:45:52 GMT
For sure. But the for-profit hackers have no reason to create things like blankets, diamond rings, and just one expansion item. Especially panels. It's the barn items that people want most.
That's why I think this is ordinary players, who just want coins, not the groups selling expansion items for real money.
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Post by blueorchid on Dec 24, 2021 21:53:02 GMT
I'm assuming people with extra large barns were hoarding panels for months and now everyone is selling them because they want to take part in the current 3xXP event and just have to get rid of them as fast as possible. Also the free Tom booster we get in the Farm Pass every month might have determined people, especially low level players, to take advantage of free Tom to fetch blankets and rings which they can sell for max coins in RSS.
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