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Post by JLSuperfly on Jun 3, 2024 22:42:24 GMT
....the Mystery Derby which the next derby?
I feel compelled to always pick a mystery task for 400 but who wants to make 17 chili popcorns?
Oh well.
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Post by lynnk2021 on Jun 3, 2024 23:21:33 GMT
I'm excited that the Mystery Derby is making an appearance after a long absence. I like it because to paraphrase Forrest Gump, "The Mystery Derby (MD) is like a box of chocolates; you never know what you'll get." Indeed, the themed derbies have become too predictable for me. Let me pause and think before choosing a MD task. It might be an easy mining task or an egg task which I don't have time to complete because it'll interrupt my beauty sleep.
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 0:57:31 GMT
A lot of people don't like the idea of mystery derby. I like trying to figure out a strategy to minimize the potential pain from various tasks. I have stacked about 33 or 34 of the known 39 production tasks, so the majority of those won't be an issue if they come up. Everyone in my NH last year had at least one town task, so you have to choose if you want to set up your visitors to have some tasks ready to go while others start at 0, or fully serve a variety so no matter which town task they give you, you have some completed. I just went through an exercise with a teammate on how to plant fields before derby starts to minimize the number of harvest cycles for some of the longer tasks. The chili pepper task is the worst one they can give you, but it turns out planting an entire field of chili peppers before derby isn't actually the best strategy. Strategy A tries to plan for the worst case chili pepper task and plants all chili peppers before derby. If chili pepper comes up, task is only 8h vs 12h without any chili peppers in the fields. But if potato/lettuce/pumpkin comes up, they are starting from scratch. Strategy B plants the "scrap" ends of each of these five long crop tasks. No matter which of these five tasks comes up, the player has the "scrap" round done when starting the task, and all five groups save one harvest cycle. Of course all this planning goes out the window if they give me an Indigo task...
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Post by colourfulfields on Jun 4, 2024 4:18:22 GMT
Mystery derby used to be one of my favorites some long time ago. Until I started to get tasks like produce 29x frutti di mare pizza or 3x fishing tasks back to back. Then I just didn't bother with it anymore.
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Post by pelecatmiaow ๐บ on Jun 4, 2024 8:08:40 GMT
I love your strategies puzzles. Mystery derby just kicked off .. milk tea x 19 is my first task. At 38 mins per item this will take just over 12 hours, maybe a bit less if I can speed some up with the 50% timer feature. Not my favourite derby .. Iโve been away on a sunny beach holiday so havenโt been able to stack up production machines for this one. Good luck everyone ๐บ
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Post by gormor on Jun 4, 2024 8:13:03 GMT
I hate them!! Mostly because they are completely incompatible with Rose and Ernest, who I use all the time! My first mystery task today is 'Pets Task': 50 milk; 41 bacon; 218 carrots. I've had to turn Rose off from collecting milk and bacon, then what I collect goes into the barn. But when i make products with milk and bacon in the machines, it takes from Rose's stock and the stuff i've manually collected in my barn sits there unused, so it will have to go in the DD.
As a rule, I never take feeding or animal collection tasks because of R&E in the derby. You can bet in the Mystery I get a million feed tasks.
What is the point of having Rose and Ernest employed during a Mystery Derby week when what they collect doesn't count towards derby tasks!? . I am basically wasting them this week until all my tasks are finished ๐ก
BUT, what they collect does count towards bonus events, like county fair and other things. Makes no sense to me
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 4, 2024 8:33:11 GMT
As for me I quitted derby completely a long time ago. The Mystery Derby was the one I ignored first. Due to the fact that I mostly received tasks as the mentioned pizza frutti di mare or goat milk. I am not sure whether you can do this derby strategically. I admit you can shorten the time if you go with puzzles preparations. This won't protect you from bad tasks, though. Nothing for me, I am not in the mood spending a lot of time for this, other things are more important for me. It's a personal choice everyone has to make. Main reason for quitting derby totally a long time ago however weren't long lasting or dreadful tasks. That alone is annoying enough in my opinion. No, the really nuisance was getting never resp very rarely permits in the horseshoes. Even if I used diamonds to shuffle. Zero! Sometimes I am about to think game knows that I dislike derby and was punishing me for that. Well, since then I took the appropriate measures and steered clear of it. I never regretted my decision. It fits very well for me. ๐
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Post by ๐ผGymGirl๐บ on Jun 4, 2024 9:03:36 GMT
Our NH does not do mystery derbies eitherโฆ.or blossom ones. Too frustrating.
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 10:27:24 GMT
Much better start this year. Last year at this time I'm still waiting for my first harvest of chili peppers for task #1...
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 12:02:42 GMT
Very happy with mystery luck this time
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Post by sapphire on Jun 4, 2024 14:48:16 GMT
donkeyfan and gymgirl I am with you! I have been thinking about stopping the derby also. Thank you for your opinions, I have been giving SC too much credit on play level. I am frustrated. It is me that has to change to be a good fit to play Hay Day. Learning this slowly. It is just me and baby farm. Okay with this. I sometimes wonder how many players are reading the one Daily Dirt at a time ๐ค I would please like a copy that is not shared with the an outrageous amount of farms
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 4, 2024 15:41:50 GMT
Very happy with mystery luck this time How many diamonds did you use? There is two hours between your postings and meanwhile you did 8 boats. Just curious.
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Post by JLSuperfly on Jun 4, 2024 16:31:43 GMT
I got a task for 15 hotdogs, 60 pounds of fish, and 16 truck orders.
The latter two I don't mind, but the hotdogs will consume all my bacon.
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Post by pelecatmiaow ๐บ on Jun 4, 2024 17:16:29 GMT
Iโm still on Task 1 .. milk tea x 19. Very frustrating but I had no time to prepare and stack machines in advance. Other events (catalogue items) would also have scuppered any advance prep.
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 18:55:37 GMT
How many diamonds did you use? There is two hours between your postings and meanwhile you did 8 boats. Just curious. I don't voluntarily take boat tasks, so with getting them in mystery derby, I gemmed for quick arrivals. 35 gems to save 24hrs. 3.5 days worth of mining Or $0.70 USD at the rate of last year's Black Friday sale. All other production/town tasks were prepped ahead of derby, so those paid off big. My grill had Baked potato(17), Bacon and eggs(12), Hamburger(13), Roasted tomatoes(16) stacked and I had to unload it all for that roasted tomato task.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 4, 2024 19:04:32 GMT
puzzles Also curious, which lv are you? Is your town fully developed as well? ๐
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Post by MommySnooks ๐ฏ on Jun 4, 2024 19:05:40 GMT
I only keep 9 of everything, less what my (non greedy) event trucks use up. Nothing stacked. Thinking Iโll just wait for reasonable 320s. Soโฆ.haven't started yet. Somehow I donโt think this is going to go well.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 4, 2024 19:17:13 GMT
I only keep 9 of everything, less what my (non greedy) event trucks use up. Nothing stacked. Thinking Iโll just wait for reasonable 320s. Soโฆ.haven't started yet. Somehow I donโt think this is going to go well. It's a smart approach, nevertheless. I cross fingers for reasonable tasks. ๐๐
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 19:31:32 GMT
puzzles Also curious, which lv are you? Is your town fully developed as well? ๐ Lvl 135, town rep 43 I'm on the last upgrade (coin) for the cinema, then two more on the beach cafe, and if I feel like it, maybe I'll max out the left-behind grocery, just for completion's sake. My teammate has more dedication and played four farms today, two in our main NH, one in our alt NH, and one solo. Just waiting for the last lettuce harvest on one farm. We prepped identical production tasks on our main farms, and the other farms were prepped as their level permitted.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 4, 2024 20:25:26 GMT
puzzles Thank you very much for answering my curiosity. I admire your commitment. In the past I was also eager to accomplish different goals but over time this changed completely. I still love HayDay, but I reduced my play-time. FYI: My current lv is 189, town lv 61, not far from 62. ๐
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Post by puzzles on Jun 4, 2024 20:49:16 GMT
donkeyfan It helps to have others that are into the game as much as you are. I used to play a similar game about 10 years ago called Paradise Bay. I see some elements of the game in HayDay, and some of the techniques in that game transferred over, like stacking on machines (though I don't recall an actual limit on stacking amounts in that game). The game shut down a few years into playing and it took a while to find this game. One thing I appreciated in Paradise Bay, which I wish HayDay would adopt, is that they had expansion/upgrade parts for their barn and silo and not only was it a fixed amount for each upgrade, but the parts did not take up any of your storage. They also gave you +25 more barn and silo space each time you leveled up, so it was nice looking forward to that. They also had some group events where if you coordinated and helped each other out, you could earn more upgrade parts. How long have you been playing? I've met some people that have played for about 10 years.
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Post by lynnk2021 on Jun 5, 2024 4:55:16 GMT
donkeyfan It helps to have others that are into the game as much as you are. I used to play a similar game about 10 years ago called Paradise Bay. I see some elements of the game in HayDay, and some of the techniques in that game transferred over, like stacking on machines (though I don't recall an actual limit on stacking amounts in that game). The game shut down a few years into playing and it took a while to find this game. One thing I appreciated in Paradise Bay, which I wish HayDay would adopt, is that they had expansion/upgrade parts for their barn and silo and not only was it a fixed amount for each upgrade, but the parts did not take up any of your storage. They also gave you +25 more barn and silo space each time you leveled up, so it was nice looking forward to that. They also had some group events where if you coordinated and helped each other out, you could earn more upgrade parts. How long have you been playing? I've met some people that have played for about 10 years. First of all, thank you puzzles for the walk down memory lane. I started playing Hay Day around 2014 actively and then casually. I learned about Paradise Bay when it was advertised on Hay Day in the movie trailers! I was curious why HD would allow a competitor to advertise its product, especially one which clones HD. The answer came to me after playing PB for a few weeks and then deleting it because it wasn't as fun as HD. I'm speculating Supercell looked closely at PB and determined it to be an inferior product than HD and not a threat to draw away players. PB was developed and published by King who is widely known for its hit Candy Crush franchise. King must've known PB wasn't better than HD, but the possibility of acquiring new players from Hay Day was too tempting. Who was proven correct? The answer is Supercell when King killed PB in 2019.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 5, 2024 21:32:07 GMT
puzzles I am playing for over 7,5 years. I remember being committed like you in the beginning. I wanted everything and at once, not in the mood for patience. For example...I was around lv 60 I desired the black bunny. It's so cute and I had not enough vouchers. The game kept me waiting for a long time, but eventually I got the bunny. ๐ Over the time as my level increased I calmed down. Concomitant with it I became more fastidious. I decided only to do what suits me. That's the reason that I advance already since a longer time very slowly. If I'd have pursued my advancing properly my lv could be > 200. I decided otherwise. I don't force it. What happens, happens. This approach has many advantages, e. g. no pressure, no stress, no necessity to be online to check on my farm. It's chilling, and I like it how it is and it's meant to be. ๐๐บ๐ป
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Post by puzzles on Jun 6, 2024 22:10:19 GMT
donkeyfanWe all have interesting beginnings with Hay Day. Friend convinced me to try it out, so I did a lot of boats in the beginning to get the two white bunnies. Then discovered all those boats leveled me up too quick vs storage, so I slowed down to get caught up. Once town opened, I shifted my focus to that exclusively, avoiding boats and trucks unless there was a good event (and I avoided any XP events for trucks). I enjoy town the most as when you fulfill orders, you have a face with the order. XP comes naturally making products, so when sending products away, I prefer it comes with some rep. These days I check in with my town a few times a day and manage a derby NH, keeping everyone organized and informed about the strategy we will use for each derby type. It's nice when you get to a point of having mostly dependable teammates. As you can probably tell, I enjoy collecting and analyzing data from the game.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2024 9:46:49 GMT
puzzles Yes, everyone can tell something from the beginning. I needed time to understand how useful the town could be. So I decided very late (in my opinion) to develop my town. IIRC it was also around lv 60 when I begun to focus on it. It's a chore. Fortunately I knew at that time players who helped me a lot with trading. Nevertheless it took it's time. I never regretted it, though. Town is still my favorite place in the game if I need items, etc. In the past I often recognized that a full developed town can't be beaten from anything else. ๐
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2024 9:53:05 GMT
Additional... and yes, I noticed your affinity to numbers, statistics etc. Very well. It suits you and of course our forum. I can't remember when we ever had such detailed information about several parts of HayDay. With the exception of the maps from sunnyphoenix and her extraordinary manuals for custom deco. It's a pity that she backed out from JHD due to personal reasons. Which are very understandable, but I miss her, and I'm not the only one. ๐
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