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Post by Chris [Supercell] on Oct 11, 2023 9:42:41 GMT
Hello Squad!
I can already announce that the team will think about further balance changes on Events like this. We heard you loud and clear!
~Chris
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Post by Hummel on Oct 11, 2023 17:13:21 GMT
Hello Squad! I can already announce that the team will think about further balance changes on Events like this. We heard you loud and clear! ~Chris Lol, thank you, Chris. |
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Post by bbean33 on Oct 11, 2023 19:19:03 GMT
I wonder if Chris (SC) could let us know about the fishing event and is SC planning on adjusting that too. I think the response is a little slow. Still love my HAYDAY❣️
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Post by squirrel on Sept 17, 2024 7:39:22 GMT
Hello Squad! I can already announce that the team will think about further balance changes on Events like this. We heard you loud and clear! ~Chris It is a year later now and I was just thinking about the first Oktoberfest event. The first task event with all these new changes. And so I came back to look at some points in this thread and saw this post from Chris again. Further balance changes? Ok sounded good last year. But what has been changed in all the following events since this time? There is still this daily limit for the tasks. There is still the problem that you have to do your tasks every day and you lose the tasks you were not able to complete within 24 hours. So no solution for those who have other commitments and can't play each day. And we are still getting tasks that are not doable in 24 hours. There are still tasks like lolly pops, jelly beans, chocolate. And in this very great green task event a really huge amount of juices (to much for one day) and jams. 4 jams or more for one day?! to many tasks for the preservation machine. But also in the normal events (not planed based ones) we are still getting jams late on the day. Getting 2 jams on a day. To much tasks on one machine. Take away this daily task limit would solve all these problems. The only thing I noticed that has changed are the points we have to reach. The are going higher and higher. Without an algorithm behind this that makes sure you get enough tasks to reach the needed points. Thanksgiving and Halloween last year for example was a average of 1571 points / day. Green game jam task Event: 2333 points / day. Oh, and of course we got this annoying leaderboard, that makes no sense in a game where you have zero impact on the points you get. More balanced? 🤔 |
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 17, 2024 8:05:38 GMT
squirrelWell spoken! I underline EVERYTHING you wrote! However, I doubt this will be read from anyone from the SC team. Chris disappeared and was never seen again. Probably he is busy and/or enlisted for other things we don't know. It's a pity, I am missing him and his colleague. 🥺 There's nothing we can do about that, we have to live with it. 😔
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Post by colourfulfields on Sept 17, 2024 11:07:14 GMT
Hello Squad! I can already announce that the team will think about further balance changes on Events like this. We heard you loud and clear! ~Chris It is a year later now and I was just thinking about the first Oktoberfest event. The first task event with all these new changes. And so I came back to look at some points in this thread and saw this post from Chris again. Further balance changes? Ok sounded good last year. But what has been changed in all the following events since this time? There is still this daily limit for the tasks. There is still the problem that you have to do your tasks every day and you lose the tasks you were not able to complete within 24 hours. So no solution for those who have other commitments and can't play each day. And we are still getting tasks that are not doable in 24 hours. There are still tasks like lolly pops, jelly beans, chocolate. And in this very great green task event a really huge amount of juices (to much for one day) and jams. 4 jams or more for one day?! to many tasks for the preservation machine. But also in the normal events (not planed based ones) we are still getting jams late on the day. Getting 2 jams on a day. To much tasks on one machine. Take away this daily task limit would solve all these problems. The only thing I noticed that has changed are the points we have to reach. The are going higher and higher. Without an algorithm behind this that makes sure you get enough tasks to reach the needed points. Thanksgiving and Halloween last year for example was a average of 1571 points / day. Green game jam task Event: 2333 points / day. Oh, and of course we got this annoying leaderboard, that makes no sense in a game where you have zero impact on the points you get. More balanced? 🤔 I agree very much with everything you mentioned above, especially the part about it being hard to people who have other real life commitments. But on a second thought, there is also one thing you didn't seem to take into consideration: they changed the order in which the rewards are being oferred on the road. For exemple last year's Oktoberfest task event had the main deco at the end of the road, this year most of the events had the decoration somewhere in the middle, so easily attainable for everyone, while the big prize at the end were usually 4 or 5 expension permits (which would normally cost a few hundred diamonds to buy). I'm actually curious how other players see this aspect: is the time and work needed to invest worth the effort or not? 🤔 |
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Post by Frog on Sept 17, 2024 17:56:23 GMT
Removing all the specific rules to Task Event will make it like another Derby/ endless truck orders/ endless boat orders which is already engineered by players well enough to "game the system".
In such easy game, rewards would be common things.
I'm all for improvement (balancing which rawrads at which progress) but not for making Hay Day even more boring where players gain no satisfaction.
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Post by squirrel on Sept 17, 2024 18:48:22 GMT
donkeyfan : Thanks, I think you are right and the SC team won't notice it. Yes, Chris is really missing here. I found this post by accident while searching for something else. Was funny to read with the current events in mind. colourfulfields Thanks. Yes, I didn't take that in consideration. Absolutly right. Thanks for this point. I noticed it in the last events too. But haven't really thought about it as I am always trying to reach the end. But I agree with you. From the point of wanting to reach a special deco it is an important change. For scrolls we have other chances too. I had a look again comparing the average for the last deco in the event. Tried to create a table but didn't work, looked so confusing that I deleted it again. The average for the happy earth deco was high. But you are right. Looking at the deco the average is still good.
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Post by squirrel on Sept 17, 2024 19:04:12 GMT
Removing all the specific rules to Task Event will make it like another Derby/ endless truck orders/ endless boat orders which is already engineered by players well enough to "game the system". In such easy game, rewards would be common things. I'm all for improvement (balancing which rawrads at which progress) but not for making Hay Day even more boring where players gain no satisfaction. I didn't want to say that all specific rules have to be removed. But in my opinion it is still not balanced. Especially the last plant based event where they removed all animal based products and unbalanced the tasks so much that many players got like 4 - 6 jam tasks. Also in normal events it should not happen that you get more jams tasks than doable in 24 hours. They want that we finish 20 tasks per day. Ok. But then give us tasks that work like this. Things like chocolate should be adjusted. But adjusted without reducing the points (as they did with the loberst tasks) Looking at all the comments from players they are also not satisfied by getting these tasks. And also by losing points and getting to less points to reach the end. Some little changes would be enough. Removing all is not needed. Give us possible tasks. Let the algorithm give us enough points so that every player who deletes only a minimum of tasks can reach the end. |
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Post by Frog on Sept 17, 2024 22:23:51 GMT
I must have been lost when you said wanting to remove daily task quota. Green Jam task is not meant to be the balanced Task Even, but a special operation. Too many Jam Task is a side effect of the team not anticipating enough. I feel comparing the two is irrelevant. As said before, the final reward is not a special deco anymore, I see it as an improvement. Gotta give them credit for that. I'm pretty please with current format of Task Event. I don't feel like I have to do 20 tasks daily. Just wanted to say there is at least one satisfied player out there  . Actually, if my group all gives up, I'll be happy to have the leaderboard all for myself  . |
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Post by puzzles on Sept 18, 2024 1:26:26 GMT
I'm actually curious how other players see this aspect: is the time and work needed to invest worth the effort or not? 🤔 Looking at the sequence of prizes and what the event demanded of a player during a Bunny Derby week (my NH always goes for all bunnies, so I need my farm prepped through Friday), I was actually happy the final prize wasn't a deco I really wanted (unlike last year's Oktoberfest Task Event where many tried and failed to get the nice table at the end). As the last two rewards on the Task Event path were 2 chick vouchers and 5 expansion permits, matching some of the elements of the 1st place leaderboard prize, I decided to play three farms like I did in the past with my baby farm - Ignore much of the first few days of the event, doing favorable tasks along the way, and then crossing the 1000pt leaderboard threshold either on the last day or the 2nd to last day. All three farms ended up in 1st place in their respective groups, with far less effort and aggravation than playing the entire event, earning the permits and chick vouchers. My main farm had already been stacked with a rotation of all the jams pre-event since that machine isn't involved in derby, so I had some built-in protection against some of the very time-consuming tasks that many players trudged through. A teammate and I took a list of production tasks compiled from prior task events and filtered it on the requirement that all products must only be sourced from crops/trees/bushes and we pre-stacked as much of that list as possible. They outdid me, playing 8 different farms in the final days and finishing first in all of them  We were able to take an event that would have been painful from start-to-finish and turn it into an interesting experience. We already have the same criticism most other players have of layering a leaderboard structure on an event where tasks are randomly assigned to each player and so everyone has different max points possible, so starting late in the game reduces the day-to-day luck factor of our own task set vs the players in our group. At the end of the prior Task Event, I wrote up an idea of how they could restructure the Task Event so that the leaderboard at least is structurally fair to all players (ignoring the option to buy extra tasks): "If I were designing a Task Event with a leaderboard component, I'd make task categories, like group A is worth 100, group B is worth 200, and group C is worth 300. Then set the daily task draw to always give each player 5 tasks from group A, 10 tasks from group B, and 5 tasks from group C. Everyone gets the same total point opportunity, and we can ensure everyone can reach the final prize in this format." |
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Post by colourfulfields on Sept 18, 2024 4:00:48 GMT
puzzles
Very interesting, thank you for sharing your experience!😊 I might try it too with my baby farm sometime. For me it's ok to play the task event the usual way, because I don't do the derby and I don't have to juggle both of them at the same time. But I know I'm in the minority here.
Your idea with the leaderboard is great too and it would be a big improvement if the team HD would implement it. Or at least to adjust the points for every task and remove everything under 100 points. The LB is not necessarily bad, but it really is very unfair and random (and just another money grab). And the extra tasks should be at least reduced to only one per day.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Sept 18, 2024 16:03:43 GMT
Point still is we (well I guess most of us) want it all and we want it now. We don’t want to work for it and we don’t want to pay for it. SC has to make money from the game. A lot of reactions in different threads find their base in irritation, frustration and give players stress, at least that is what I read. In another thread I asked the question what is giving stress out of Hayday and why? It’s just pixels, well the number of reactions to my questions I could easily count 10 times on one hand.
I am fine with everything SC throws at us, enjoy the game while it lasts and play in a way that suits you best.
My 2 cents.
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 18, 2024 16:10:47 GMT
ducktown2021 I agree with you as well. Although I criticize some imbalance I basically enjoy it. Since my farm and my town is flourishing for a long time I only do what suits me. But I won't to restate my play-style. Most members of this forum know how I am thinking about that. Relaxation is everything, stress and frustration a NoGo. 🙂
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Post by emailkathy on Sept 20, 2024 14:33:37 GMT
**just a little bit off real topic*** -
I came to the board to try and get caught up... saw the Octoberfest fest thread was 13 pages! gasp! Choke! I have had a bit of down time for medical stuff but HOW did i miss so much?!! I start reading and a glance at the date... just a few days ago. Then I start reading about updates, new soaps, benches, events.... well that started a deep in the gut panic! 😳 ran over to playstore... no update available. 😢
Grabbed a coffee, hiked the tension on my pedal exerciser, took deep breaths... and started again with page 1, message 1... this time I realized this thread was started LAST year... at about this same time. So, all in all... THANK YOU everyone for getting me to do a little more exercise, giving me a good laugh out loud few minutes and all around bring me joy! 😊
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 20, 2024 15:20:16 GMT
emailkathy You are very welcome, you know that. Thanks for your refreshing Off-Topic. If it's not gonna happen that SC pleases us with an update (or frustrate us, howsoever) 😉 our members will fill this gap with some funny and interesting thoughts. Thank you for that. ❤️
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 22, 2024 15:50:22 GMT
Since the County Fair is still running I present my Oktoberfest corner. I bought the pigs a second time bc they are so cute. (In my opinion, whereas taste differs ....I know that) 😉  |
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Post by blackbrit on Sept 22, 2024 16:28:30 GMT
Since the County Fair is still running I present my Oktoberfest corner. I bought the pigs a second time bc they are so cute. (In my opinion, whereas taste differs ....I know that) 😉 This is lovely! You are inspiring me. I, too, have two sets of the musical pigs. I like them and found it very easy to get a second set with the pine cones. |
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 22, 2024 19:13:48 GMT
blackbrit Just found your cute "Piggy corner". So nice, I like it very much! 🙂👍❤️
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Post by LuvHayDay on Sept 22, 2024 20:13:01 GMT
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 23, 2024 7:44:54 GMT
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Post by ducktown2021 on Sept 24, 2024 8:24:34 GMT
Some deco you need for deco collection book are available for money. There are also some deco/diamond offers available with okt fest related decos.
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Post by donkeyfan on Sept 24, 2024 8:53:21 GMT
ducktown2021 THX for sharing, I already noticed. I personally give it a pass as I am not that fond to complete the books and secondly it's not my taste. For those who think differently it may be a good opportunity.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Sept 24, 2024 9:11:02 GMT
ducktown2021 THX for sharing, I already noticed. I personally give it a pass as I am not that fond to complete the books and secondly it's not my taste. For those who think differently it may be a good opportunity. I saw it too but I am also giving it a miss. I don’t look at the book. |
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. Actually, if my group all gives up, I'll be happy to have the leaderboard all for myself 
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We were able to take an event that would have been painful from start-to-finish and turn it into an interesting experience. We already have the same criticism most other players have of layering a leaderboard structure on an event where tasks are randomly assigned to each player and so everyone has different max points possible, so starting late in the game reduces the day-to-day luck factor of our own task set vs the players in our group.
