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Thanks for this thread Cowslips and Chris. A few thoughts and I am sure I will be adding more later.

I also purchase the pass for my main level 221 farm but not my baby farm level 46 or thereabouts. Being in a small hood the baby farm is mainly there to provide town visitors when we need them, especially during a derby. We do derby fairly regularly but we have no hesitation in opting out of ones we don’t enjoy. I have been farming since 2013.

I love the XP, permits, puzzle pieces and blueprints. Also the extra fuel spin and the extra wheel of fortune spin. I don’t use Rosie and Ernie ever so those boosters are wasted on me. I occasionally use Tom boosters and boat ones but I am very picky about which boats I do now. Fishing weight and mining boosters are great but rarely appear. I don’t use the help boosters for trucks or the town. If I can’t do the order it gets deleted and the townie is sent away. The extra slots are great for the dairy but I would like see them offered in the sauce machine too and maybe a booster for that machine.

The custom decor has been really good to get but it would be nice to see some new ones. Also an opportunity to get some older decor would be great.

The diamond gift is a nice and I am looking forward to getting my second peacock.

Thanks for this opportunity.

Additional:

FullAck to 🌼GymGirl🌺 posting! 👍🏻

First some info on my farm. Level 148 almost, Playing since forever, Playing in a hood, Derby player.

This is a bit minor but I felt the extra WOF and fuel spin were in the wrong order on the track. The fuel spin was unlocked well before the valley begins since it was super early and the WOF spin took a bit more work so took a few days which means a few days without the extra spin.

From my perspective I didn’t like the XP reduction which took place but understand all that extra XP is tough on the lower levels.

All in all the April pass felt a bit underwhelming. Even the free road which has a gnome in the decoration spot feels like poverty. I also think a nice Easter decoration should’ve been in that spot.

I do wish that in general there were a few more permits, puzzles and barn expansion items to be had in the pass.
Actually I would really love to see a whole upgrade of a barn of silo added to a farm pass
I am happy to see the panels removed which used to be there in every pass.

This month has a lot of extra town and truck help perks 2 for each. And for my playing style this perk is useless.
I don’t ask for help on my trucks or in my town.
Trucks I’m not willing to fill I won’t ask others to fill, besides with the 30 minutes refresh it’s just as easy to trash an order. And truck orders are starting to get too greedy with too little rewards.
Towns: getting help in the town isn’t that easy and again if I don’t want to fill it I won’t ask for help, I’d rather remove that townie. When I absolutely need to ask for help I have more then enough with the standard 3 requests we have and otherwise there’s the neighborhood request option too.
Furthermore I don’t like helping others in the town because it’s way too cumbersome and I think that’s also why it’s difficult to receive town help so I don’t rely on it.
For those reasons I don’t care for the additional truck and town help perks in the pass.

I do like the extra boat helps especially when there’s a more difficult puzzle boat or boat event going on.

Extra slots: I generally like the extra slots on the machines, especially dairy and sugar. But I would love to see the option added to get an extra slot choice on the sauce maker.

Summary
Likes (random order): XP and coins, diamond gifting, fuel and WOF spins, boat help, production slots, extra booster slot, premium decorations, permits, puzzles, chick vouchers.
Dislikes: extra town and truck help, land expansion items, underwhelming deco like the gnome, WOF spin late on the track.
Suggestions: more puzzles, permits, a complete barn or silo expansion, add sauce maker to extra slot choices, more XP, train tracks as deco.

I’ve been playing HayDay for approximately 9 1/2 years. My main farm is level 181 and my baby farms are level 73 and 50. On my main farm I do boats and townies regularly, truck orders when there’s an event or for derby tasks. The baby farm are basically used to support the main farm: make soya sauce, chocolate and other items which are very long to make. Also, they supply townies for the main farm. The main farm participates in ALL derbies. I use to use diamonds to shuffle rewards in order to get permits. I don’t anymore, because after 2 months of wasting diamonds… I got maybe 1-3 permits. I now don’t care about opening all the land. 

I use to spend a lot of money on diamond packages especially when there was decorations that I liked in the packages. Since the “permit incident” in the derby rewards… I boycotted buying diamond packages. It was my way to protest my disappointment on how SC handled the situation. SC basically told us to “chill out” and we don’t really care about or respect  the people who play this game. We only want their money. But SC forgot that “happy” players spend money…. Unhappy players don’t spend money. 

I have bought the farm pass maybe 3-5 times since it started… the ONLY reason I will purchase the farm pass is if I like and want the decorations. The custom decoration were OK, but we already have lots. Maybe develop new items ex: personalized tractors etc.. for the farm. All the land expansion items are useless, I have over 150 of each and I manage to open a piece of land about every 4-5 months, when I have enough permits. The extra spins are Ok, but as someone mentioned I would like the free spin WOF before the free spin valley. The puzzle pieces, chicken tickets for peacocks, extra slots for machines, diamonds for hoodies, extra help truck and town are fine too, but not enough to make me want to purchase the farm pass. I actually liked it when the wood shelves were on the farm pass. For some reason, my farm has a difficult time getting them. I was able to find them in the daily paper. Most of the rewards on the farm pass are “fillers”, stuff people don’t really need or want. 

I think SC should put a bit more effort in the decoration selections for the farm pass. SC should put decorations that the players WILL want ex: tractor, tents, horse carriage, car from first valley (which very few players were able to get) etc… Examples of farm passes I did purchase was the bunny on the trampoline (last year near Easter) even if I already had it, I did purchase the farm pass in March (it had 3 nice decorations which I didn’t have and liked) and l can’t remember the other farm passes I purchased but the decorations was the only reason I bought them. For April, SC should have put Easter decorations (not the bunny trampoline like last year). I was disappointed with April decorations in farm pass, the pay line had butterfly balloons, chicken claw bush and the chicks in a pool. As mentioned a gnome should never be a prize in the farm pass, even on the free line. Most players have tons of gnomes from derby prizes. 

Thank you for allowing us to share our opinions,, wants,, likes,, dislikes!  

I purchase the farmpass for both farms (levels 124 and 71) even though level 71 is small, I enjoy the xp. I manage to keep up with machines by producing and selling constantly. I do get frustrated by the duplicate help requests (boat, town, truck) I ignore boats unless derby, trash truck orders I don't want to fill, and have no problem keeping my townies happy and served. I would much rather see more coins, xp, permits, boosters, and older deco that I might have missed or want more of. I do love the diamonds we can as we have several lower levels in our hood that love to receive them. Maybe having 2 in each farmpass or upping it up to 10 hoodies?

Love the peacocks and can't wait to get the other 2! 😁
Love the extra slots on machines! So helpful and would love to have more.
Love the WOF spin. So fun to have, just wish it came at beginning of road.
Love the extra fuel for valley. Helps so much! Fuel is at times scarce.
Love when there is decor I missed. I like to change things around.



The animal hats are getting old. I miss the snorkels, shirts, sunglasses, goggles, ties, bandanas, and shawls the animals used to have available to wear.

Would love to see more building/expansion materials in larger amounts. Eg. 3 bolts, 5 axes etc.

Would like to be able to choose between some xp/coin awards. Some could be set and others could be a choice between the 2.

Gnomes are blah derby prizes. 🥱 Plz remove them from farmpass.

Plz put extra slot prizes closer to beginning of road. We rely on those so much! 9 slots are not enough for some things.

Give extra slots for sauce machine. 9 are Def not enough.

Great points Cowslips and I agree about this months pass but I did buy it. Choice overall would good, not sure if it is hard to implement.
I primarily got the April one for the XP, permits and chick vouchers.

I can’t really say how long I’ve been playing.  I began before a road trip one year as a thing to do to keep the kid busy when we had to wait at restaurants, etc.  Didn’t join a hood or anything—we just did whatever, and I spent time each day getting him “unstuck” from a full barn, empty feed mills, empty silo, or empty coins, lol.  I stopped some time after that because I found it incredibly boring to spend 20 min each morning, doing so.  And kid probably got onto the iPad to play without me at some point, so off it went.  

I met some fun HD people on the old SC forum and connected with Tahoe (in forum games, of course 💕😊).  She showed me around the neighborhood and what the derby was about.  I have been playing daily since.  Again, no idea how long, but it’s probably been over 2 years since I restarted.  T probably knows better than I do, lol.  

I’m level 94 now, soon to be 95, with one farm.  (It’s all I have time for and I still think the fact that people *need so many to help a “main” farm get to where they want it, is a red flag in terms of game balance.)  I work part-time and still play Clash somewhat, and now Everdale, so I guess I’m a casual HD player?  I don’t always derby, and I saved up for the big red tractor so I’m still short a machine (and the extra sugar mill I want).  But the choice to just hope to get the tractor by luck somewhere in the next ten years or save up, get it, and enjoy it while I wait for the next big machine was a no-brainer for me.   I didn’t want to wait ten years to start making the farm look cute.  It’s a big part of what I enjoy about the game.  

So how this relates to farm pass for me: 

I never derbied (?) early on and only do so intermittently now, so I still focus on older deco I like, and I still enjoy the odd gnome, lol.  Not every derby offers great deco rewards or ones that I like the theme of.  As few as I have, a number of them are still repeats.  So when the farm pass reward is occasionally something we got just last year, I’m scratching my head a bit as to why that is.  

Because I play casually and make/sell bits at a time, it takes me a long time to gain coin.  I don’t like my stock to deplete too fast in case I *do want to derby or do an event and find myself short on things.  So I’m one of those people who wants to slow down on XP until I gain coin.  Choice is always good here, I think.

I didn’t mind the doubles of the extra slots on machines this month.  I might have preferred something else, and could manage without them, but I found it nice to get extra slots on two of three machines on those cards.  All are machines I use and sometimes get stuck on for a whole day (or more).  Extra slots on sauce, jam, BBQ, & candy would be cool.  Those are all machines that get bogged down with products that take too long.  

I don’t really use the birdhouse, but I think T does sometimes to transfer things to/from her farms.  

The fuel spin and WoF spins I like—people already mentioned having one earlier on the road than it is.   Good idea.   

I totally go for scrolls and puzzle pieces.  The amount of land to open and amount of scrolls needed will take me over 3 years to collect, even with the paid farm pass.  So it helps, but it all still feels frustratingly slow for someone who plays actively, daily (just not super-sonic online all the time doing *everything*). I don’t want to have to feel that *driven with a game, to feel like I’m making satisfying progress.  Meanwhile, people saving EMs will be saving them and not selling them for the same number of years, unless something changes, lol.   I understand that maybe SC wanted the extra land to take longer to open (thus the scrolls) but it still feels too far-off and out of whack.  Same with the chick vouchers.  I think it’s kind of…not fun (?)  that it takes three months with a paid pass (and nine months with a free pass) to get a bird, lol.  

Extra helps I don’t need, for boat, truck, or town.  I try to limit the amount of help I ask for in the first place unless I’ve got a tricky puzzle boat I really want, or for an event or farm pass goal itself, etc.  I have sadly sent puzzle boats away but it’s usually because they ask for too much.  In that case if I don’t want to fill 50 apple pies and 80 tacos in each of 4 crates, I don’t want to ask five or six people to fill 50 apple pies or 80 tacos!  (I kid with the numbers but you know what I mean, lol.) 

I like the EMs in the farm pass because unless I have all day to stay online and flip pages in the DD and hope for faster Internet than others, I don’t get copious amounts.  The ones I don’t need and that take barn space, I sell and I hope others do the same.  *Flips DD pages faster*. 

I already said I’m personally still not thrilled with extra XP, so that extends to XP boosters.  They go straight in the trash.   I rarely see good fishing weight and time ones to help with lure fishing tasks—more of those boosters splashed in would be nice.  Tom, Rose and Ernest boosters are also nice, as I can’t afford to keep them hired with diamonds all the time, and they really do help. 

The diamonds gifts are nice, obviously.  

Custom deco…I have at least one of each, somehow, but can’t afford to upgrade them yet.  So I haven’t paid any attention to blueprints.  Not there yet. Going to get the silly machines first, and hope they *don’t add a new one every update. lol.  *Unless they start making extra fields and barn/silo expansions a lot easier, to compensate*.  There has to be an end to the exponential increase in materials required that undoes the whole point of getting a space increase in the first place.  It’s frankly the most annoying thing in the whole game, for me.  For those who already have all the machines and who are sitting on lots of coin, I can see additional varieties of custom deco being a fun thing for them (and I’ll get there eventually), so to add that in the farm pass would be good.  

What else…the extra derby task thing.  I was glad to have it when I had to trash a task that selected by bug/glitch or some sort of accidental tap on the touchscreen.  Not sure that is what it was meant for, and I wish there was some other way to “fix” that.  

I think that’s it.  Maybe I should do a summary post if I have time.  Apologies particularly to the people whose first language is not English and who read this stuff on a phone, lol.  

Glad that works for you.  😊  I always just stick to one place, or I’d probably never post anything, lol.  

No doubt it must.  It was pretty large on the old forum, though.  Not sure how this compares.    500 pages?  That’s quite a feat!  It could be the start of the next instant NY Times bestseller! 😊

Why I buy/would buy the farm pass;

•Chick Vouchers (when I need them)
•Cool decorations I've previously missed
•Cool new decorations (not chick based)
•Extra spin on wheel(s) (especially if the daily spinner extra spin is one of the 1st things available on pass road)
•Decent amount of expansion permits (the real time length to unlock all that land is mad)
•Dairy item slots, probably wouldn't buy for that alone but lumped in with everything else they are appreciated

Why I do not buy/would not buy the farm pass;

•Most of the other boosters such as extra helps
•Gold and Xp...now they've shrunk its a mere blip and easily forgettable
•Chick based decos, not a fan

greenleaf

Also very well said. I support this! 

Hi, in advance I am very sorry for the length It is vacation here today and I wanted to write.

Farm level: 221 and 176 (main farms). I have feeder farms level varying from 135 to level 17.

Started playing: When the game was launched. I play the game to relax and enjoy, and I always take breaks.

Hood: Except one farm, “my” hood = alone. Note: My friends who also started with the launch of the game and who had developed farms stopped playing because of the imbalances in the game. For the same reason, I have stopped playing with most of my feeder farms.

Farm pass and connected issues: I initially bought the farm pass for most of my farms (7 farms). Gradually I stopped buying the farm pass except my main farms. So, not only what is offered in the farm pass affects my decision in buying the farm pass and for how many farms, but I also consider the imbalances in the game.

Like many players, I happily and gladly supported SC by buying diamonds (in the beginning), and later the other “products” when introduced such as the farm pass. However, what SC has become in the time unfortunately gives me the sense (impression) of greediness. E.g., for the last years most “products” are offered for real money instead of diamonds (it was not like that before) - the “products” offered for diamonds are boosters, expansion items bundled with a deco generally, and “1 permit and 1 puzzle piece bundling” that is offered for 230 diamonds (!) which really irritates me especially when I consider that SC never arranges permit events anymore. Thus, I must spend real money in most cases to support SC and I cannot justify this anymore. Of course, SC is a business that aims for profit, but the imbalances in the game and the sense of greediness of SC that I have (and also some players that I know) simply deter us from supporting SC currently. Thus, it will be good if this greedy approach is abandoned by SC or giving this impression, the players' opinions are asked on what they think can be improved in the game (not only farm pass) and more "products" (e.g., nice deco) can be made purchasable with diamonds (I am not meaning diamond and deco bundling).

We have a trading group. Most trading members had developed farms and they truly supported SC. However, they stopped playing because of the imbalances in the game. Now we have app. 25 members left, and I know that most members are not buying the farm pass as they find it useless (so below also involves their opinion).

What I would like to see in the farm pass so I can consider buying it again:

Increase the amount of XP: XP was one of main reasons why I bought the farm pass. Levelling up was keeping me motivated = keeping me playing the game as the imbalances in the game have already reduced my willingness to play the game. XP offered in the new farm pass cannot even fill 2/3 of XP required for the next level. Thus, if an amount of XP in a farm pass that will enable my farm to level up (like the previous farm pass) is offered, I can consider buying the farm pass.

I understand that some players do not want much XP as they need coins, and levelling up while developing their farms is not ideal. Solution is to offer XP and coins as “selectable”. XP is already spread along the farm pass so those players will not choose (e.g.) the highest amount of XP but will choose the coins, which is a good compromise.

Increase the number of permits that also affects sale of deco: I love decorating my farm and I used to buy deco. Now I do not buy at all also because I do not have enough land. I need permits to open new lands. However, for a reason that I cannot understand, permits are almost impossible to acquire. I need to do derby which is personally a true source of stress and boredness. Other than derby, I rely on my luck in the valley (most of the time no permit is in my valley rewards) and the boxes in the farms (got no permit from any box till today). “Spin the wheel” is not an event at all – it is based on my luck, and I need to spin it again to possibly get the permit so I must spend diamonds. And, no, I am not spending diamonds on spinning the wheel again if I don’t get the permit the first time.

Thus, I would like to see more permits in the farm pass and also events for permits. I can surely consider buying the farm pass if these two improvements together are made. In turn, not only the farm pass, but deco can also be sold more (more land = more room for deco).

Improve deco: If my memory is correct, most deco offered in the farm pass are old deco. I would like to see pure new deco - not chicks or something, some effort in creating new different deco will truly be appreciated by many players. In turn, the farm pass can be an attractive “product”, which is good for SC.

Old deco is already offered in the events, and SC can arrange regular “yard sales” where old deco is offered at significantly reduced currency. Some other developers of similar games are doing - playing one such a game and “yard sales” is quite handy imo.

No duplicates: The duplicate helps for truck, boat and town are completely useless for me (I do not even do the trucks for many years), and I would not like to see them in the farm pass.

Instant barn expansion: Instead of the same expansion items since the beginning of the farm pass, I would like to see (complete) instant barn expansion reward.

As the game evolves, the machines are introduced in a quite disproportional manner = each machine comes with at least 2 - 3 products, which means room in the barn. With 80 limit and only 50 increase with each upgrade, it has simply become disproportional and irrationally burdensome to keep up with the barn especially for people who cannot devote good amount of time to the game. Yes, Hayday is a "patience and management" game, but if something is disproportional, trying to manage it does not make sense to me. As it seems that the storage increase (50) is not going to be increased proportional to a certain farm level or barn capacity (e.g., 100 increase between lvl 200 - 300; 150 increase between lvl 301 - 400), I believe such an instant barn expansion per month will be a great selling point for SC (may lead to a good number of "monthly subscriptions"), which will not also undermine any path of the game.

Introduce reasonable rewards on the free path: It is very understandable that there will be a difference between the rewards offered on the paid path and free path. But I personally find some rewards on the free path really poor like gnomes, and the difference as such big that it becomes quite tasteless for me (another deterrent effect). Not everyone will or can prioritize to pay real money for the farm pass (pixels in the end) for any reason, and it is important to remember that “non-premium” players have also supported and are supporting this game, to say the least increasing its popularity. So, I would like to see reasonable rewards also on the free path. The more I feel that the difference between paid and free paths is getting bigger, the more I will maintain not making room in my budget for the game.

More extra slots for machines used frequently: Like almost everyone has stated, I would like to see more slots for other machines used frequently, such as sauce maker.

Thanks and sorry for the length again. I truly hope that improvements are made in one way or another so I can justify supporting the game and thereby SC again.

Edit: I agree with all: enough custom deco please. I have app. 23 in the storage in one farm. Even if I would decide to make them all, I am not sure if my vouchers will be enough. This also shows disproportional approach in the game imo and that certain rewards in the farm pass are not really well-thought or not cared about. As I wrote, it will be great to see some effort put by SC in the farm pass.  

I just read an interesting question from the Hay Day subreddit which I hadn't considered.

Why doesn’t supercell give me the diamonds when I’m the one that bought farm pass?