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Post by misspoufy on Jul 13, 2021 23:31:02 GMT
I always thought you were assigned a group of competitors based upon starting time. This morning when the first task in our neighborhood was taken we were in tenth place, already 1500 points behind the first place team. Am I mistaken on how derby starts?
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Post by Mom’sCar on Jul 14, 2021 0:32:26 GMT
I always thought you were assigned a group of competitors based upon starting time. This morning when the first task in our neighborhood was taken we were in tenth place, already 1500 points behind the first place team. Am I mistaken on how derby starts? I have not heard that there has been any change in how NHs are matched for their particular derby line-up. While, as far as we know, you are not matched until someone in your NH takes the first task. Each NH is also matched by the number of opted in players. Some NHs may have a more common number of players, and therefore those lineups are filled quickly. Have you ever noticed that there are times when your line-up of NHs is not at 15 until after your NH has finished a few tasks? This is all speculation on what ‘could’ be happening. |
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Post by shepherdgirl on Jul 14, 2021 0:45:55 GMT
It’s been a while since I’ve derby’d (can’t wait til next week and glorious retirement!) but I recall this as being normal, especially on delayed starts. If it just so happens that there are 15 or your size NHs pressing the 'go' button at the same time you’ll get into a fresh group all at the same time. But if there are 3 groups left over they aren’t forced to wait for 12 new teams…they’ll be given the go ahead, then new NHs will be added to that group as soon as they take their first task.
It’s more noticeable in a very delayed start, e.g. Friday or Saturday, and much less common on the first day, which is likely why you haven’t experienced it before.
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Post by misspoufy on Jul 14, 2021 17:51:55 GMT
We are a NH of 4 active derby players (the others don't derby with us) and usually we're very evenly matched in competing NHs. This week, however, it was obvious that the NHs we were matched with were on the other side of the world and had started the derby hours before we did. By the time I'd completed two tasks (a soybean task, and a truck task) their neighborhood had completed all of theirs. The #2 NH finished minutes later.
First I don't know how that is possible, even with stacking etc. How is it humanly possible that a team of 4 can complete 40 tasks in less than an hour?
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Post by RescueSquad15. (RS 15)🪓 on Jul 14, 2021 18:17:39 GMT
We are a NH of 4 active derby players (the others don't derby with us) and usually we're very evenly matched in competing NHs. This week, however, it was obvious that the NHs we were matched with were on the other side of the world and had started the derby hours before we did. By the time I'd completed two tasks (a soybean task, and a truck task) their neighborhood had completed all of theirs. The #2 NH finished minutes later. First I don't know how that is possible, even with stacking etc. How is it humanly possible that a team of 4 can complete 40 tasks in less than an hour? I know it can be frustrating, but I want to assure you it is possible to finish in minutes. Even with a group of 4 or more players. It doesn't only have to be stacking regular task, mining and help tasks, and even train tasks are quick. All you need is a fully equipped and ready town of 42, a bunch of mining supplies, and the easiest of all, a bunch of trees and bushes needing water. I was able to finish my derby with just that tactic. If you have multiple farms it's even easier. I have 3 of my own. Between my farms alone I was able to get help tasks, mining, basket and train. All tasks were stacked on board until my train task showed up. I finished in under 5 min. With multiple players using this tactic it's relatively easy. And saving watering for the derby is probably the quickest. Stacking any product task ahead of derby also only requires collection of products once derby starts. Again, I know it can be frustrating, especially when you think a delayed start is going to help. But remember, there are over a million players around the world and if only a small percentage of them do this, that's still thousands. BTW, I'm located in East Coast US, so it can be done even against players overseas. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 18:25:11 GMT
I don’t play the regular derby or blossom but for all the others I always do a delayed start so I have a board full of 320 that I prep or make sure I can do quickly, ie town, help etc and usually start sometime on the Weds and so far it has nearly always been successful. I am a solo player so that might make a difference
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Post by donkeyfan on Jul 14, 2021 18:31:08 GMT
I don’t play the regular derby or blossom but for all the others I always do a delayed start so I have a board full of 320 that I prep or make sure I can do quickly, ie town, help etc and usually start sometime on the Weds and so far it has nearly always been successful. I am a solo player so that might make a difference Same by me with one exception, I do the normal derby. But usually my sister-in-law and myself are also waiting for a full board and we mostly are starting on Wednesday. And we are ready, 2 or 3 hours ago. |
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Post by kiafrasimo on Jul 14, 2021 20:59:19 GMT
I started derby on Wednesday and one NH has finished immediately after I choosed the first task.
I noted that it happens if I start on different days than Tuesday.
I think that it's a very frustrating bug.
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Post by misspoufy on Jul 14, 2021 21:20:58 GMT
We are a NH of 4 active derby players (the others don't derby with us) and usually we're very evenly matched in competing NHs. This week, however, it was obvious that the NHs we were matched with were on the other side of the world and had started the derby hours before we did. By the time I'd completed two tasks (a soybean task, and a truck task) their neighborhood had completed all of theirs. The #2 NH finished minutes later. First I don't know how that is possible, even with stacking etc. How is it humanly possible that a team of 4 can complete 40 tasks in less than an hour? I know it can be frustrating, but I want to assure you it is possible to finish in minutes. Even with a group of 4 or more players. It doesn't only have to be stacking regular task, mining and help tasks, and even train tasks are quick. All you need is a fully equipped and ready town of 42, a bunch of mining supplies, and the easiest of all, a bunch of trees and bushes needing water. I was able to finish my derby with just that tactic. If you have multiple farms it's even easier. I have 3 of my own. Between my farms alone I was able to get help tasks, mining, basket and train. All tasks were stacked on board until my train task showed up. I finished in under 5 min. With multiple players using this tactic it's relatively easy. And saving watering for the derby is probably the quickest. Stacking any product task ahead of derby also only requires collection of products once derby starts. Again, I know it can be frustrating, especially when you think a delayed start is going to help. But remember, there are over a million players around the world and if only a small percentage of them do this, that's still thousands. BTW, I'm located in East Coast US, so it can be done even against players overseas. What delayed start? I got up at 7 and took my first task shortly thereafter. I have my town ready with 42 townies, always look for train, mining, and other tasks for which I am very prepared but unless you use diamonds to constantly refresh the board (which I absolutely refuse to do) there is NO possible way to have four people complete 10 tasks each in minutes. This is where I think the derby needs tweaked. Either the prizes for top 3 need eliminated or NHs should be divided into those who are derby obsessed and will do anything and everything to get top 3 and those who play for the enjoyment of playing. BTW, even with not using a single diamond and trashing plenty of tasks I still managed to finish all my ten tasks by 8 PM, so about 13 hours and do 69 trucks for the global truck event. |
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Post by Liberty on Jul 14, 2021 21:24:17 GMT
I've experienced this too with really delayed starts. By the time I took my first task, some players have already completed all of theirs, and I understand why this happened. But it's surprising for me to see someone who started on the first day and is in the same situation. I started roughly at the same time as OP, but there were only two teams in my group - the others showed up a few minutes later. Now I wonder if the size of the derby impacts this, as I'm a solo player and things seem to be different for us.
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Post by Mom’sCar on Jul 14, 2021 23:33:40 GMT
I know it can be frustrating, but I want to assure you it is possible to finish in minutes. Even with a group of 4 or more players. It doesn't only have to be stacking regular task, mining and help tasks, and even train tasks are quick. All you need is a fully equipped and ready town of 42, a bunch of mining supplies, and the easiest of all, a bunch of trees and bushes needing water. I was able to finish my derby with just that tactic. If you have multiple farms it's even easier. I have 3 of my own. Between my farms alone I was able to get help tasks, mining, basket and train. All tasks were stacked on board until my train task showed up. I finished in under 5 min. With multiple players using this tactic it's relatively easy. And saving watering for the derby is probably the quickest. Stacking any product task ahead of derby also only requires collection of products once derby starts. Again, I know it can be frustrating, especially when you think a delayed start is going to help. But remember, there are over a million players around the world and if only a small percentage of them do this, that's still thousands. BTW, I'm located in East Coast US, so it can be done even against players overseas. What delayed start? I got up at 7 and took my first task shortly thereafter. I have my town ready with 42 townies, always look for train, mining, and other tasks for which I am very prepared but unless you use diamonds to constantly refresh the board (which I absolutely refuse to do) there is NO possible way to have four people complete 10 tasks each in minutes. This is where I think the derby needs tweaked. Either the prizes for top 3 need eliminated or NHs should be divided into those who are derby obsessed and will do anything and everything to get top 3 and those who play for the enjoyment of playing. BTW, even with not using a single diamond and trashing plenty of tasks I still managed to finish all my ten tasks by 8 PM, so about 13 hours and do 69 trucks for the global truck event. Misspoufy, sometimes starting immediately does not not generate the most favorable match-up. I’m of the opinion that many derby-obsessed NHs may do just that. A ‘delayed start’ may help your NH get a better match-up. That is, decide ahead of the derby how many hours your NH will wait from the start of the derby to when one of you will take the first task. During the time you are waiting to actually choose a task, trash the ones that take too much time. Although growing soybeans and doing trucks may not be difficult, they are not quick tasks to finish. Many solo players may wait for days for their board to have all necessary tasks prepped and ready so that they are able to finish within minutes. Really, this happens. It will not work out to your favor every time. More players have learned (from the forum and other groups) about delayed start making it less effective. The NH that finished the derby in minutes, may very well have started before your NH got matched with them. The same has probably happened to many of us. There are many players that do use diamonds to refresh the task board, finish production items, etc. There is nothing wrong with that. It is allowed, and therefore is a choice of each player how and when to use their diamonds. |
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Post by donkeyfan on Jul 15, 2021 12:48:45 GMT
I agree with Mom’sCar. Besides, my sister-in-law and myself are also "fans" of a delayed start, but this doesn't mean to be successful for the best places. But we don't care about that. As RescueSquad15. (RS 15)🪓 explained you can achieve a lot when you're well prepaired, but it also tooks a lot of diamonds to finish as quick as some NH are able to do. I also appreciate the suggestion from misspoufy of tweaking the derby. I think that would be a good idea because players which want to force the derby will be satisfied, the one which prefer to play for fun without investing diamonds as well, and SC wouldn't loose money. The players, who are supposed to use always diamonds to push the derby will do so in a special derby class, too. Just my 2 cents...  Greetings, donkeyfan |
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Post by Eturtle on Jul 15, 2021 18:03:04 GMT
My neighborhood always does delayed derby start and that has worked for us for a long time. But lately we have no chance of ending up in the top three. We start the derby and as it is mentioned here in this thread, at least two neighborhoods are already so far ahead when we pick the first task, there is no chance of catching up.
Our hood plays the derby every week and it is fun to play as a group, but we resigned ourselves to being a mid-field team.
I really am curious, what do some neighborhoods do to win consistently each and every week?
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Post by misspoufy on Jul 15, 2021 20:42:15 GMT
My neighborhood always does delayed derby start and that has worked for us for a long time. But lately we have no chance of ending up in the top three. We start the derby and as it is mentioned here in this thread, at least two neighborhoods are already so far ahead when we pick the first task, there is no chance of catching up. Our hood plays the derby every week and it is fun to play as a group, but we resigned ourselves to being a mid-field team. I really am curious, what do some neighborhoods do to win consistently each and every week? Mainly they use diamonds. Lots and lots and lots of diamonds. We have tried the delayed start and honestly saw little difference. We have tried several different strategies and while we are not a derby crazed neighborhood (we don't spend hundreds of diamonds each derby just to get a few EMs) we often do each spend diamonds to do the 10th task, depending upon the derby. No sense in spending the diamonds if you can see on Tuesday evening there's no way to win any of the top 3. I didn't ask to make a big thing about it, I simply wondered if the pairing methods had changed. I play because I enjoy the game. I've played since the game's inception (when I started playing I had a Kindle! LOL) I love the decor and enjoy decorating my farm for the seasons and holidays. |
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Post by emailkathy on Jul 15, 2021 22:10:22 GMT
I think it may depend on how big your hood is. We have only 2 derby players, unless it is a chill then have 3. 2 members are non players.
We start stacking on Sunday and Monday, then start trashing as soon as we get up on Tuesday. We know what we have ready and that's all we keep. We don't rush with diamonds, with the exception of brining in boats if we decide to do a boat task and a 10th task
Usually we place top 3.
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Post by hayville on Jul 15, 2021 23:55:46 GMT
We have any where from 15 to 20 in derby. A few are in U.K. and Australia so we don't do a real delayed start, they wait 15 or 20 minutes that seems to work for our large group. We don't all do 10 tasks if close a few will to place, no need to waste diamonds for mine tools. Some will call boats in early or use a couple of diamonds to finish a task that's close to expiring, that's about as many diamonds as we are going to spend. Probably would spend more if prizes were worth it. We place most weeks, but I think it's because it's a large group. We play for fun and land permits.
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