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Post by pelecatmiaow 😺 on Jan 15, 2024 10:33:25 GMT
I recall ages ago reading that a barn capacity of 10,000 was the optimum to aim for but that was two or three years ago and we’ve since had loads more machines and new products added. I’m nowhere near the 10,000* lol but wondered if anyone had done some calculations based on current gameplay?
* Current barn 7800 on main farm and just 900 on my baby farm. And always running out of space!
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Post by BauldersGate on Jan 15, 2024 11:34:27 GMT
Don't ask me I'm always well behind 🤣
Lv 161 Barn 4250 Silo 4300
Miles behind most 😅
But enough to keep around 10 of each make-able item
And 100 ish of each crop (fruit trees/bushes I usually just harvest as needed)
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Post by Tahoe 🐾 on Jan 15, 2024 11:53:28 GMT
Don't ask me I'm always well behind 🤣 Lv 161 Barn 4250 Silo 4300 Miles behind most 😅 But enough to keep around 10 of each make-able item And 100 ish of each crop (fruit trees/bushes I usually just harvest as needed) Me too! In fact, I haven't increased the storage capacity on either the barn or silo on my main farm in ages! But, I do transfer all the expansion items to my second farm to increase it's storage to hold all my extra stuff! (Last I knew, the max for each was 25,000 and none of my farms are even close to that!)
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Post by Frog on Jan 16, 2024 8:38:42 GMT
How does one define "optimum"?
You could list all items available at your level and the amount you wouls like to store. Add them up for a minimum space.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jan 16, 2024 18:53:19 GMT
pelecatmiaow 😺No, I made no calculations since the space from barn and silo depends on your play-style. BTW, I remember that in the past the number of 10.000 was indeed the maximum. For some time. But with permanent new machines and products it wasn't long-living. Adjustments followed and to be honest - I don't know the up-to-date max. If you are a player who like it to serve many tasks such as ship, board AND town you have to hold available more products from every kind. If you serve e. g. only town regularly you need less products. That's only an example. In my opinion you should have a feeling how many products are necessary to provide a smooth "flow". Over the years you gain the experience what you need. Respectively what you don't need. Lv: 185 Town Lv: 61 Barn: 7.200 Silo: 7.200 I don't force any expansion since I have more than enough space.
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Post by Lunadocker on Jan 17, 2024 0:17:03 GMT
My farm is 267 and lots would think my barn would be large, it not, but like all above I have adapted a playing style that makes it comfortable for me to play. I let my barn and silo upgrade what I call naturally thats within items I from my farming. Keep it balance with 10 items each. Sell the excess in my rss. Yes it takes a while to upgrade but I’m okay with that. The ting abut the game it allows everyone to play there own style.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Jan 17, 2024 6:11:47 GMT
I think you learn to manage. I hold less of each item because so many new items have come along. I do serve work my town but nowadays I leave a lot of boats unfilled. I do puzzle piece ones and a few others but that us it, I will do a truck tasks in the derby when I want barn space, my husband and I take it in turns to upgrade the barn and help each other with the expansion items, my silo is not big but I only upgrade it when I feel I need to.
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Post by Tahoe 🐾 on Jan 17, 2024 6:28:42 GMT
I think you learn to manage. I hold less of each item because so many new items have come along. I do serve work my town but nowadays I leave a lot of boats unfilled. I do puzzle piece ones and a few others but that us it, I will do a truck tasks in the derby when I want barn space, my husband and I take it in turns to upgrade the barn and help each other with the expansion items, my silo is not big but I only upgrade it when I feel I need to. Speaking of holding less of things, I use to keep 95 of each candle (why, I have no idea- it's the number that popped into my head at the time 😄, much like the different numbers of other items I maintain. There's no rhyme or reason whatsoever, lol). With all the new products, and me not upgrading my storages, I had to let go of most of them over a short period. I have about 15 now 😆.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Jan 17, 2024 20:00:34 GMT
I think you learn to manage. I hold less of each item because so many new items have come along. I do serve work my town but nowadays I leave a lot of boats unfilled. I do puzzle piece ones and a few others but that us it, I will do a truck tasks in the derby when I want barn space, my husband and I take it in turns to upgrade the barn and help each other with the expansion items, my silo is not big but I only upgrade it when I feel I need to. Speaking of holding less of things, I use to keep 95 of each candle (why, I have no idea- it's the number that popped into my head at the time 😄, much like the different numbers of other items I maintain. There's no rhyme or reason whatsoever, lol). With all the new products, and me not upgrading my storages, I had to let go of most of them over a short period. I have about 15 now 😆. I totally understand. Whatever number comes into your head is what happens to me. I am now trying to sit and come to a number more logically. I hold more jams and some of the things that take longer to produce but others have been cut right back. Easier to when I don’t do as many boats.
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Post by JLSuperfly on Jan 18, 2024 6:35:38 GMT
I am at level 172 and I have 5800 barn and silo. I only keep a maximum of 7 for end products, more for products that are also used as ingredients. I never sell any dairy products.
I always have between 500-1000 barn space.
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Post by blackbrit on Jan 18, 2024 13:29:32 GMT
I thought it might be useful to chime in and add that you can also choose to “bank” your highest expansion material when you get to, in my case, one item shy of the upgrade level.
For example, my barn is at 10,800, and in my current style of play I let the plank amount go crazy so they reach 233, well ahead of the other expansion materials and one plank short of the 234 needed for expansion. I then use 8 diamonds to buy the final plank and then have 234 extra spaces in my barn with all the planks I need “banked” for my next upgrade, and the other planks over that amount available to trade.
One of my hoodies, also with a large barn, plays this way. She explained it to me and I am now hooked. At level 246 I have plenty of diamonds, many of which arrived free in the game. It means I am now rarely am up against the limit of my barn capacity, which I appreciate.
I am largely playing for xp and to help neighbors these days, and managing barn - and silo - space this way is a big help. So, once again, it all comes down to style of play.
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Post by Cowslips on Jan 18, 2024 13:36:04 GMT
I thought it might be useful to chime in and add that you can also choose to “bank” your highest expansion material when you get to, in my case, one item shy of the upgrade level. For example, my barn is at 10,800, and in my current style of play I let the plank amount go crazy so they reach 233, well ahead of the other expansion materials and one plank short of the 234 needed for expansion. I then use 8 diamonds to buy the final plank and then have 234 extra spaces in my barn with all the planks I need “banked” for my next upgrade, and the other planks over that amount available to trade. One of my hoodies, also with a large barn, plays this way. She explained it to me and I am now hooked. At level 246 I have plenty of diamonds, many of which arrived free in the game. It means I am now rarely am up against the limit of my barn capacity, which I appreciate. I am largely playing for xp and to help neighbors these days, and managing barn - and silo - space this way is a big help. So, once again, it all comes down to style of play. I've played that way for years, and it really works for me (although I fully understand that not everyone will want to use diamonds in that way). It's a matter of personal choice of course. I've taken this tactic further, and also "bank" land expansion. The final piece for that costs 12 diamonds. I'm now in the position where almost all of the final plots of "newest" land are ready to open when I get enough expansion permits. I just need a few stakes and deeds to be complete. It's then simply a matter of waiting for permits; I'll no longer need to store LEMs in my barn.
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Post by anne on Jan 19, 2024 9:59:05 GMT
I thought it might be useful to chime in and add that you can also choose to “bank” your highest expansion material when you get to, in my case, one item shy of the upgrade level. For example, my barn is at 10,800, and in my current style of play I let the plank amount go crazy so they reach 233, well ahead of the other expansion materials and one plank short of the 234 needed for expansion. I then use 8 diamonds to buy the final plank and then have 234 extra spaces in my barn with all the planks I need “banked” for my next upgrade, and the other planks over that amount available to trade. One of my hoodies, also with a large barn, plays this way. She explained it to me and I am now hooked. At level 246 I have plenty of diamonds, many of which arrived free in the game. It means I am now rarely am up against the limit of my barn capacity, which I appreciate. I am largely playing for xp and to help neighbors these days, and managing barn - and silo - space this way is a big help. So, once again, it all comes down to style of play. I've played that way for years, and it really works for me (although I fully understand that not everyone will want to use diamonds in that way). It's a matter of personal choice of course. I've taken this tactic further, and also "bank" land expansion. The final piece for that costs 12 diamonds. I'm now in the position where almost all of the final plots of "newest" land are ready to open when I get enough expansion permits. I just need a few stakes and deeds to be complete. It's then simply a matter of waiting for permits; I'll no longer need to store LEMs in my barn. Sorry, I might be slow, but do not understand this 🙈 Why do you buy the last plank with diamonds? Why don’ you wait until you get it for free?
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Post by Cowslips on Jan 19, 2024 10:34:12 GMT
I've played that way for years, and it really works for me (although I fully understand that not everyone will want to use diamonds in that way). It's a matter of personal choice of course. I've taken this tactic further, and also "bank" land expansion. The final piece for that costs 12 diamonds. I'm now in the position where almost all of the final plots of "newest" land are ready to open when I get enough expansion permits. I just need a few stakes and deeds to be complete. It's then simply a matter of waiting for permits; I'll no longer need to store LEMs in my barn. Sorry, I might be slow, but do not understand this 🙈 Why do you buy the last plank with diamonds? Why don’ you wait until you get it for free? "Banking" items is one way to manage your barn storage. As you approach higher levels you need more and more items to expand your barn, silo and land. As an example, my level 252 farm needs the following: Barn - 213 of each (213 x 3 = 639) Silo - 199 of each (199 x 3 = 597) Land - varies by each plot but the current one I'm working on needs 77 of each (77 x 3 = 231) My current barn capacity is 9700. That's quite spacious, but keeping all expansion items in there would impact very seriously on the barn capacity and make farming much harder. At my level I have all of the machines available, so I like to have a lot of space for products. Instead of storing expansion materials until I have enough for a complete expansion, I bank each when I am one item below what is needed (once you go over, the ability to bank is lost). For barn and silo expansions that costs 8 diamonds; for land expansion it is 12 diamonds. The third item can be completed without using diamonds. This helps me because items drop at different rates. My farm generates planks, panels and mallets much quicker than other items - it's a wooden farm! I'd stress that this is only one technique for tackling expansion. There are other ways, of course, but it suits me. I hope this helps to clarify.
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Post by Frog on Jan 19, 2024 11:49:21 GMT
I'll try to summarize the tip shared by Cowslips : Let's say the barn needs 30 items (10 each) to upgrade. In general, when barn is upgraded, then the 30 BEM are used and 30 space becomes available, in addition of extra space due to upgrade.
With the tip above, play won't need to wait for 30 BEMs, they can do a partial upgrade. If I have a set of 5 bolt/5 plank/9 tape. I can choose to buy the last plank for 8 diamonds. Instantly, I'll get 9 space back. Barn is not yet upgraded, but I can use the space while waiting for other BEM.
This is much more interesting when player needs more and more BEM to upgrade. In Cowslips case, 8 diamonds to instantly free 200+ space in the barn.
I hope I'm clear. Now you can make informed decision.
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Post by JLSuperfly on Jan 23, 2024 7:04:13 GMT
I don't understand the 8 diamond strategy.
"With the tip above, play won't need to wait for 30 BEMs, they can do a partial upgrade. If I have a set of 5 bolt/5 plank/9 tape. I can choose to buy the last plank for 8 diamonds. Instantly, I'll get 9 space back. Barn is not yet upgraded, but I can use the space while waiting for other BEM."
How do you get nine spaces back instantly by spending 8 diamonds? You buy one plank, then gain 9 spaces? By buying one plank, you lose one space. Yes?
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Post by Frog on Jan 23, 2024 8:57:49 GMT
If words aren't clear, you can perhaps observe it on a mini where you don't care much about diamonds. Or wait till someone post a pic proof. We are explaining what's happening in game as it is currently programmed and not how we expect it to be. It could be a design flaw and by discussing it here, it could be changed... Who knows?
If we aren't getting any space back, a serious question would be why people are doing it? And repeatedly!
Using the same example of 30 Bems needed, with only 5/5/9 in barn, here are different possibilities :
A/ I earn 2 more tapes from the game, barn upgrading shows 11/10 with a green tick. All 11 tapes are in barn for me to use or sale. B/ I spend 8 diamonds to buy the missing tape, barn upgrade shows only the green tick, the 9+1 newly bought are not in barn but somehow "banked" somewhere by the game. My barn does not have those tapes to sale and give me 9 more spaces than before I bought the 10th tape. Later, when I have green tick on other item as well, I'll be able to upgrade barn.
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Post by Cowslips on Jan 23, 2024 10:55:42 GMT
I don't understand the 8 diamond strategy. "With the tip above, play won't need to wait for 30 BEMs, they can do a partial upgrade. If I have a set of 5 bolt/5 plank/9 tape. I can choose to buy the last plank for 8 diamonds. Instantly, I'll get 9 space back. Barn is not yet upgraded, but I can use the space while waiting for other BEM." How do you get nine spaces back instantly by spending 8 diamonds? You buy one plank, then gain 9 spaces? By buying one plank, you lose one space. Yes? I can understand why you find this confusing. Here are some screen shots which might help. They we taken on one of my baby farms. I don't usually bank items on this farm, but have done so to illustrate. Here's the situation before: As you can see, my barn is seriously overfilled, with 653/625. After tapping on the button to use 8 diamonds, this is what I get: The planks show a tick, and the barn storage has reduced by 24. I hope this helps
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Post by JLSuperfly on Jan 23, 2024 20:31:41 GMT
Got it cowslips. Thanks.
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Post by JLSuperfly on Jan 23, 2024 20:32:47 GMT
My new question, how did you overfill your barn?
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Post by Cowslips on Jan 23, 2024 21:01:58 GMT
My new question, how did you overfill your barn? It's a baby farm, so not one that I actively play. I collect prizes from the Wheel of Fortune each day, though, so that increases my barn stock. It's possible to overfill your barn in several ways: opening gift boxes; fishing with lures; collecting gifts from townies; collecting items from events; etc.
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Post by Frog on Jan 23, 2024 21:24:53 GMT
[snipped] As you can see, my barn is seriously overfilled, with 653/625. [...] The planks show a tick, and the barn storage has reduced by 24 23. I hope this helps It is very helpful to illustrate the tip. Thank you for sharing, Cowslips. (with very minor typo thath only a cat eye notice)
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Post by pelecatmiaow 😺 on Feb 3, 2024 11:12:07 GMT
Can I bank more than one item? So, for example, if I bank planks using 8 diamonds to buy the last one, can I then bank either ducts or bolts in the same way?
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Post by Cowslips on Feb 3, 2024 11:17:31 GMT
Can I bank more than one item? So, for example, if I bank planks using 8 diamonds to buy the last one, can I then bank either ducts or bolts in the same way? PC Yes you can. Below is an image of the current state of my barn. When I eventually have enough tapes I won't need to use diamonds though, so each full upgrade costs 16 diamonds.
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Post by pelecatmiaow 😺 on Feb 3, 2024 11:26:27 GMT
Can I bank more than one item? So, for example, if I bank planks using 8 diamonds to buy the last one, can I then bank either ducts or bolts in the same way? PC Yes you can. Below is an image of the current state of my barn. When I eventually have enough tapes I won't need to use diamonds though, so each full upgrade costs 16 diamonds. Excellent! Thanks. I can’t wait to try this new trick. PC
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