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Post by anniebel884 on Oct 23, 2022 19:56:25 GMT
So I just calculated with the help of the wiki (thank you), I need 395 more expansion permits to open my remaining land 😱. Considering I get only 1 sometimes from the derby every other week or so, & 1 or none from the valley, it is going to take me a while 🤦♀️😂😢 Was very happy to see them as a threshold award in the fishing event though, thank you.
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Post by donkeyfan on Oct 23, 2022 20:10:18 GMT
Hi anniebel884 The permits are a permanent pain in the a**.  I've given up to be annoyed. It is how it is, we can't change it. Despite from that very interesting, your research.   I think I'm in a similar situation regarding the permits. Due to the fact that I didn't bought every time the farmpass which would have provided me with permits it will take a very (!) long time for me to unlock all lots as well. Seems to become an eternal task.  |
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Post by greenleaf on Oct 23, 2022 20:16:24 GMT
I agree with you both. Scrolls are much toooooo rare. But like Donkeyfan said, it is what it is. We just have to be patient.
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Post by anniebel884 on Oct 23, 2022 21:19:28 GMT
Yeah I get you, I used to be annoyed to, but now it is ‘c'est la vie’ 🤷♀️ I calculated as an interesting exercise lol. I always pick if they are available on derby or valley. Funnily my smaller farm has much more lol, but that farm was started after they became needed, so have been collecting there since its beginning, whereas my bigger farm has had to play catch up.
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Post by Eturtle on Oct 25, 2022 2:56:04 GMT
Since it is just the land across the road that requires scrolls, I don't worry too much over it since there will always be locked land for us to keep collecting scrolls for  just how I do it: I hoard my diamonds and spend them when there are scrolls to get. For example, if there is a one-day boat event with scrolls as reward, I speed up the boat when the timer runs down to 2 diamonds. I also opt those farms in for the chill derby and am super happy should it be a bunny chill derby and I do spend the diamonds to shuffle the reward columns to get the scrolls. |
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Post by BauldersGate on Oct 25, 2022 8:02:39 GMT
Yep, I worked it out once and immediately wished I hadn't 😆
My reasoning went like this for each month (rounded to 4 wks for lazy convenience sake) you get about;
4-8 from normal derbies
1-3 from bunny Derby (assuming average of 1 bunny Derby per 4 wks)
1/3 from chick Road (unpaid/paid)
1-3 from valley
Plus the rare extras from:
- Red box
- Greg's calendar
- Special wheel
- Boat event
- Threshold reward on global event
So each month anywhere between 8-18 expansion permits would probably be about right
With 12 feeling generously average (with no paid valley pass)
I need 284 still so I reckon I've got a year and a half to 2 years to go to have it all unlocked
So by summer/winter 2024 😅 🎉
(I'd love to be wrong and get it done sooner though 😆)
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Post by anniebel884 on Oct 25, 2022 8:49:35 GMT
Yep, I worked it out once and immediately wished I hadn't 😆 My reasoning went like this for each month (rounded to 4 wks for lazy convenience sake) you get about; 4-8 from normal derbies 1-3 from bunny Derby (assuming average of 1 bunny Derby per 4 wks) 1/3 from chick Road (unpaid/paid) 1-3 from valley Plus the rare extras from: - Red box - Greg's calendar - Special wheel - Boat event - Threshold reward on global event So each month anywhere between 8-18 expansion permits would probably be about right With 12 feeling generously average (with no paid valley pass) I need 284 still so I reckon I've got a year and a half to 2 years to go to have it all unlocked So by summer/winter 2024 😅 🎉 (I'd love to be wrong and get it done sooner though 😆) Good reasoning, except my main farm is super unlucky I hardly ever get offered any these days in derbies, never spin any on wheel of misfortune, even in the valley my main farm will get an offer of 1 or none, while my other farm has always at least 3. |
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Post by donkeyfan on Oct 25, 2022 10:46:47 GMT
I agree to anniebel884 . Regarding permits I'm also not at the bright side of life. I would be happy if I'd get 12 permits a month, but that's not gonna happen. My average is more less, if I'm lucky I gain 8 or 9 permits a month. (Also without buying the farmpass). This assumption is based on the fact getting 4 permits in 4 derby. If I'm lucky I achieve 6. Additional 2 permits in the valley at an average ( there were times I got none, on some occasions 3, but this is rare) and the usual permit in the free version from the farmpass. I don't calculate how long it takes until I've unlocked all lots. It's too frustrating. As I wrote, I try to deal with it as best as I can. Sometimes I'm annoyed, I can't deny it.  |
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Post by Eturtle on Oct 25, 2022 16:58:37 GMT
and I have to admit, I 'cheated', I spent diamonds to get scrolls  |
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Post by BauldersGate on Oct 25, 2022 17:51:01 GMT
anniebel884 that sucks, I never get one on the wheel or in a box anymore either...I also completely missed the boat event 😅 I went down to the wire to earn 850 red tokens to grab the last expansion permit available to me in valley before it ended the other day Ended it with 4 red tokens to spare and 3 fuel 😆 close call 😅
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Post by anniebel884 on Oct 25, 2022 20:23:10 GMT
From memory it was after the last land release. I used to get them regularly in derby & valley, never been lucky on wheel, had a cache of about 80ish, was happily working on the plots I had left. Then they released that new chunk of land & they seemed to dry up 🤷♀️, & I have never got them regularly since.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Oct 25, 2022 20:48:27 GMT
From memory it was after the last land release. I used to get them regularly in derby & valley, never been lucky on wheel, had a cache of about 80ish, was happily working on the plots I had left. Then they released that new chunk of land & they seemed to dry up 🤷♀️, & I have never got them regularly since. Don’t know what level you are, but if you have enough fields harvest wheat. Mine tools drop regular and you can get up to 10 diamonds per day. In the derby I sometimes have to shuffle 1-2 times to get two permits per derby. I do play solo in CL so I am sure I can get the correct thresholds for the permits. |
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Post by Sooty on Oct 29, 2022 11:48:04 GMT
I have collected all scrolls and opened all land, and very miffed that after a short recess I am now offered no more scrolls to store - I know I am in the minority but please give something that allows me to collect them again - more land to open?
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Post by Garda on Nov 7, 2022 21:25:42 GMT
I have collected all scrolls and opened all land, and very miffed that after a short recess I am now offered no more scrolls to store - I know I am in the minority but please give something that allows me to collect them again - more land to open? I don’t understand Sooty. Since opening up all my land I continue to receive scrolls in all the usual places and have so far acquired 16. More land to follow perhaps? |
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Post by bbean33 on Nov 8, 2022 4:15:36 GMT
I have opened all my land and have collected 22 scrolls. I guess that’s my limit because they stopped showing up. I would love to be able to collect them so when more land opens up It wouldn’t take so long to open the new areas.
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Post by Sooty on Nov 10, 2022 13:46:39 GMT
I have opened all my land and have collected 22 scrolls. I guess that’s my limit because they stopped showing up. I would love to be able to collect them so when more land opens up It wouldn’t take so long to open the new areas. I had stopped gaining them at 22 also - but picked up one from an event so now have 23 and can’t collect my more!!! |
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Post by greenleaf on Nov 10, 2022 15:31:02 GMT
Wow! Folks have opened all land! Amazing! I still have a couple years to go! Lol. But it's okay. I seldom get permits so I transfer expansion stuff to baby farm and that helps it a lot. I'm okay with the process as it is. I've resigned myself to a couple years and by then they will probably give us more land lol. So for me it's an ever going task... no end in sight! 😁😁😁
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Post by donkeyfan on Nov 10, 2022 15:57:14 GMT
anniebel884 that sucks, I never get one on the wheel or in a box anymore either...I also completely missed the boat event 😅 I went down to the wire to earn 850 red tokens to grab the last expansion permit available to me in valley before it ended the other day Ended it with 4 red tokens to spare and 3 fuel 😆 close call 😅 Just followed this thread again as the permits are a recurrent nuisance. Oh my, I can imagine how hard this must have been. Congrets you made it.  I have opened all my land and have collected 22 scrolls. I guess that’s my limit because they stopped showing up. I would love to be able to collect them so when more land opens up It wouldn’t take so long to open the new areas. Wow, that's a statement. Well done, congrets as well. I have opened all my land and have collected 22 scrolls. I guess that’s my limit because they stopped showing up. I would love to be able to collect them so when more land opens up It wouldn’t take so long to open the new areas. I had stopped gaining them at 22 also - but picked up one from an event so now have 23 and can’t collect my more!!! Ditto! Wow! Folks have opened all land! Amazing! I still have a couple years to go! Lol. But it's okay. I seldom get permits so I transfer expansion stuff to baby farm and that helps it a lot. I'm okay with the process as it is. I've resigned myself to a couple years and by then they will probably give us more land lol. So for me it's an ever going task... no end in sight! 😁😁😁 Yes, I agree. The never ending story. I try to get permits whenever it's possible but I don't buy any with diamonds. Sometimes I'm also considering to use the LEM's for my babyfarm but mostly I refrain because my babyfarm has for it's purpose enough space. Only if I notice that barn or silo are becoming tight I switch some tools for expansion. This happens rather than expanding more land. |
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Post by xkitty on Nov 12, 2022 16:06:46 GMT
Yeah I get you, I used to be annoyed to, but now it is ‘c'est la vie’ 🤷♀️ I calculated as an interesting exercise lol. I always pick if they are available on derby or valley. Funnily my smaller farm has much more lol, but that farm was started after they became needed, so have been collecting there since its beginning, whereas my bigger farm has had to play catch up. I do everything I can to get scrolls, usually doing at least two rerolls on the derby prizes. I usually get two more. Most of my land is opened up. On the other hand, it is a game and I'm not sure how happy I would be if there was nothing to work for. I don't want everything given to me. |
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Post by anniebel884 on Nov 12, 2022 20:49:28 GMT
Yeah I get you, I used to be annoyed to, but now it is ‘c'est la vie’ 🤷♀️ I calculated as an interesting exercise lol. I always pick if they are available on derby or valley. Funnily my smaller farm has much more lol, but that farm was started after they became needed, so have been collecting there since its beginning, whereas my bigger farm has had to play catch up. I do everything I can to get scrolls, usually doing at least two rerolls on the derby prizes. I usually get two more. Most of my land is opened up. On the other hand, it is a game and I'm not sure how happy I would be if there was nothing to work for. I don't want everything given to me. Yes I do to, but it is the opportunities to get them I no longer get. For example, last derby I was offered non in all rows. In this valley there is only one to get on the last release, whereas my smaller farm has about 4. At this rate my smaller farm will open its land before the main |
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