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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2022 9:27:00 GMT
Lily77 I support your requests regarding permits, blueprints and deco in the horseshoes. I didn't payed much attention to this and neither shuffled often in the past. I'm missing some experiences due to this. THX in advance for enlighten us to this matter.
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 7, 2022 13:16:44 GMT
donkeyfan thank you so much. It will be good to know or remember which columns (horseshoe tabs) give and do not give which rewards. Reddit and Hayday wiki seem to have good information on this issue (I checked it quickly last night). We cannot give the link - if you write "derby rewards", "horseshoe", "leagues" on google, I believe you can see reddit and hay day wiki so you can read the info there. Working full days - if I happen to get time, I can summarise the info that I have gathered at least from reddit.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2022 13:47:43 GMT
Lily77 That would be very nice. This time I'll save the info so I don't have to ask in the future. Perhaps ducktown2021 may have some additional information.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 7, 2022 15:51:06 GMT
Lily77 That would be very nice. This time I'll save the info so I don't have to ask in the future. Perhaps ducktown2021 may have some additional information. I have to look into that. I know I posted it somewhere before here on this forum, if only I could find the correct thread. But the six items (2 of each mentioned) are always in six rows connected to each other and always in the same sequence, as example: permit, blueprint, 🧩, permit, blueprint, 🧩. I try to find that thread with the postings en post the URL here once I found it.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2022 15:59:02 GMT
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 7, 2022 16:06:33 GMT
Here you go. Row 3 puzzle, row 4 permit, row 5 blueprint, row 6 puzzle, row 7 permit, row 8 blueprint. if you’re missing those items in the columns you know which rows to reshuffle for them to pop up. Might take some reshuffling but they will show up, same with the deco. It’s up to you to decide how much diamonds you want to spent on reshuffling, that’s at own risk. I get enough diamonds from mining to reshuffle 1-4 times if needed. Attachments:
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 7, 2022 16:32:48 GMT
donkeyfan and ducktown2021 the below is what I have found (mostly about champions league) and I think it is still accurate (esp. reddit): Expansion permit: "Expansion Permits will only appear in derby prize columns 4 and 7, so if you opt to spend 5 diamonds to reshuffle the derby prizes to earn Expansion Permits, remember not to select a prize in columns 4 or 7 prior to shuffling as these are the only two columns where it is possible to be awarded Expansion Permits" (wiki hayday - expansion permit - strategy tips). Same information on reddit. This is also my experience if my memory is correct: expansion permits appear on columns 4 + 7. - This means that novice league and rookie league can never get 2 permits even with shuffling, as the number of the columns is 6. Correct? Puzzle pieces: While the info regarding puzzle pieces on wiki says "random", a post on reddit states that "For regular derby, you can get permits on columns 4 and 7 and puzzle pieces on 3 and 6. It is for regular, blossom and power derbies. For bingo and bunny derbies, you can get permits or puzzle pieces on all 3 of the extra columns..." (a post in reddit that can be found under the thread "Shuffling derby rewards", not stating the author). What is stated above from reddit is also my experience so I assume that the info is still accurate (I have no account on reddit so I do not know if one can see a more detailed discussion on the issue if one is a member). - This means that novice league and rookie league may get 2 puzzle pieces with shuffling, as the number of the columns is 6. Correct? Deco: I think that the info is a little bit old but very detailed: "You can get decos on any of them, except maybe 9. For the Olympic themed ones, you can get the gnome on 1 and 5, the flame on 2 and 6, the podium on 2 and 7, and the obstacle on 3 and 8. Some of the older decos will also show up occasionally" (a post in reddit that can be found under the thread "Shuffling derby rewards", not stating the author). ducktown2021 it will truly be great if you can get an opportunity to verify or adjust the info.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 7, 2022 16:42:23 GMT
Lily77 Your research is great. Very appreciated. Thank you so much. I'll make a screenshot to save this and a bookmark for this page of this thread.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 7, 2022 16:52:50 GMT
Lily77 , see my posting above yours. 😉 indeed CL.
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 7, 2022 18:11:34 GMT
Thanks donkeyfan . Thanks ducktown2021 this was very helpful. So, rookie league (5 columns) cannot get 2 permits and 2 puzzles pieces with reshuffling (only 1 per), and novice league (6 columns) cannot get 2 permits but may get 2 puzzle pieces with reshuffling: would that be correct? Thanks.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 7, 2022 18:43:56 GMT
Thanks donkeyfan . Thanks ducktown2021 this was very helpful. So, rookie league (5 columns) cannot get 2 permits and 2 puzzles pieces with reshuffling (only 1 per), and novice league (6 columns) cannot get 2 permits but may get 2 puzzle pieces with reshuffling: would that be correct? Thanks. Yes, that’s correct. That’s the reason that people don’t need to place top3 necessarily but always top12 so they stay in the CL to be able to get the number horseshoe thresholds within reach to collect the six items. only thing is, as long as SC brings extra animals to the sanctuary and expand land we will need them for a very long period. I gave up on them and focus on the decos that I would like to have.
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 7, 2022 22:47:24 GMT
Thanks donkeyfan . Thanks ducktown2021 this was very helpful. So, rookie league (5 columns) cannot get 2 permits and 2 puzzles pieces with reshuffling (only 1 per), and novice league (6 columns) cannot get 2 permits but may get 2 puzzle pieces with reshuffling: would that be correct? Thanks. Yes, that’s correct. That’s the reason that people don’t need to place top3 necessarily but always top12 so they stay in the CL to be able to get the number horseshoe thresholds within reach to collect the six items. only thing is, as long as SC brings extra animals to the sanctuary and expand land we will need them for a very long period. I gave up on them and focus on the decos that I would like to have. Thanks a lot for the info ducktown2021 that really really helped. During the periods that I am playing, I am trying just to stay in 12 in CL only to get permits so I still haven't given up on them but getting there as it is an impossible thing for me to manage and my valley rewards are generally not permits (already gave up on the farm pass since there is unfortunately no permit on the free path). Yes, if new derby decos appear, good to get the ones that one likes. Thanks a lot again!
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 8, 2022 7:06:39 GMT
ducktown2021 I want to join Lily77 on this. Your hints are helpful indeed. Thanks from me, too.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 9, 2022 6:31:47 GMT
ducktown2021 I want to join Lily77 on this. Your hints are helpful indeed. Thanks from me, too. As you can see for this weeks rewards, I have 🧩 in row 3 and 6, but no permits in 4 and 7. If I want permits in those rows I need to reshuffle the rows. You also don’t see any blueprints in row 5 but that is because I already have 15 in stock. They don’t pop up in valley and derby rewards if you have 15 unused in stock. you can also see that I have an old deco in the row where also the permit will show up after reshuffling. row 1 and 2 (also a deco) are not visible in the picture attached. disclaimer; you might need to shuffle couple of times, spending diamonds to get what you want is always at own risk. 😉 Attachments:
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Post by BauldersGate on Jun 9, 2022 6:45:43 GMT
There was something liberating about just taking tasks and not caring too much 😆
All above 300 point still but only 2 320's in the mix because they happened to show up
And one 400 mystery at the end (chilli farming)
I could take one more 400 mystery with diamonds and get the last column which is currently not obtained.
But I don't feel like it this week😅
Still have a couple puzzle and an expansion permit in the reward mix so I'm happy 😁
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 9, 2022 7:44:21 GMT
ducktown2021 THX again for your detailed explanation and the informative screenshot. I'll keep it in mind for next Monday. I'm done with Mystery, but only because I was fed up about the length of tasks at the beginning. I accelerated with diamonds. Fortunately the last task with 400 was the train. I was relieved. Conclusion for me? NEVER, NEVER Mystery again. I'm done and I'll never try again. I'm always unlucky, always. No change in sight. I won't test my "luck" again on this.
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 9, 2022 10:56:08 GMT
Thanks ducktown2021 ducktown2021 this is very helpful. I have been taking 400 p tasks until now because 300 p - 320 p tasks rarely appear (can't spend time to login frequently to fresh the task board) so I may be demoted either because of really hard 400 p or low point tasks. So far, strangely, the tasks follow a kind of pattern for my farms. Summarising for 2 farms: 1st day: mine + help; 2nd day: town + animal feeding; 3rd day: fishing + production. No 1 although I am taking it easy so I suppose the tasks should be pretty long for the other teams and they are also taking it easy. donkeyfan as you said, the tasks are pretty much based on luck. Edit: I forgot to write - if you get an opportunity, it will truly be great if you can write the 400 p tasks that you got. I will do that after I am done with all the tasks.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 9, 2022 14:49:16 GMT
No 1-3 we’re done within one day after the derby started, 10x400 tasks taken. I think that when a mystery derby starts there are usually 4 400 tasks on the board. You take one and start doing that one. The other 3 left on the board are not the same task as the one you took, but that is a guess. I do the task, pick an other one. If I liked the first one (pending time) I will take the latest 400 task that showed up on the board, maybe that one might be a task like the first one I took, because the other 3 are not similar. This is pure my theory, based on assumptions.
I will edit this posting with my tasks and which task I took after the board refreshed (so having 3 on board and taking the 4th that popped up).
- 3 boats - 24 helps - 21 trucks - 7 mechanic served - 164 animals - fish 92lbs - fish 81lbs - 184 animals - 7 actrices served - 169 animals
for the fishing and feed animal tasks I used the method I described above. So the 7th and 10th task. I will try this method again if we have another mystery derby.
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 9, 2022 18:11:37 GMT
Here comes the tasks for 2 farms. Sorry - I thought that there was a kind of pattern but there is not as I can see when I list the tasks. Placed no 1 - most tasks below are easy timewise. I am not sure if the tasks have become easier timewise or I was lucky in this mystery derby? I do remember extremely long tasks in the previous mystery derbies such as bacon + goat milk + goat milk one another, and that's why I dislike mystery derby.
Yes, there were 4 tasks on the board. When I compare the tasks done by 2 farms, you may certainly be right, 4 tasks are not the same - none of the tasks for 2 farms has the same nature (production, mine, help, truck, town, fishing, harvest, combo), e.g. task 1 is production for farm 1 and mine for farm 2. There are some tasks for farm 2 that have the same nature (3rd + 4th = help; 6th + 7th = town; 9th + 10th = production). I must have taken town tasks and production tasks after the board refreshed as town and production tasks take some time (except help task because I always try to keep some trees & bushes in another farm for help task).
I will pay attention next time when we have mystery derby.
Farm 1: - Production: 24 raspberry muffin - Mine: 72 ores - Feeding: 167 animals - Mine: 95 ores - Town: 19 visitors - Combo: 15 help + 13 town visitors + 117 animals - Fishing: 92 lbs - Fishing: 75 lbs - Mine: 58 ores - Harvest: 250 potato fields
Farm 2: - Mine: 66 ores - Harvest: 255 pumpkin fields - Help: 20 help - Help: 22 help - Truck: 24 truck - Town: 12 visitors at the gift shop - Town: 7 dancer - Mine: 93 ores - Production: 20 blue wooly hat - Production: 7 sweater + 16 hot chocolate + 7 pumpkin pie
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Post by Lily77 on Jun 12, 2022 20:40:16 GMT
Here you go. Row 3 puzzle, row 4 permit, row 5 blueprint, row 6 puzzle, row 7 permit, row 8 blueprint. if you’re missing those items in the columns you know which rows to reshuffle for them to pop up. Might take some reshuffling but they will show up, same with the deco. It’s up to you to decide how much diamonds you want to spent on reshuffling, that’s at own risk. I get enough diamonds from mining to reshuffle 1-4 times if needed. Thanks again ducktown2021: OK, so even if I go below 16 blueprints, this will not affect the availability of permits in the derby rewards as permits and blueprints appear on different columns. Do you have an idea when it comes valley rewards? I rarely get permits. If I go below 16 blueprints, do you think that this will reduce the chances of permits appearing as valley reward, since blueprints may appear? I am not sure, I think I did not test it... Thanks a lot!
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 13, 2022 9:15:31 GMT
Next derby is Bingo...
I opted already out...
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 13, 2022 9:54:17 GMT
Here you go. Row 3 puzzle, row 4 permit, row 5 blueprint, row 6 puzzle, row 7 permit, row 8 blueprint. if you’re missing those items in the columns you know which rows to reshuffle for them to pop up. Might take some reshuffling but they will show up, same with the deco. It’s up to you to decide how much diamonds you want to spent on reshuffling, that’s at own risk. I get enough diamonds from mining to reshuffle 1-4 times if needed. Thanks again ducktown2021 : OK, so even if I go below 16 blueprints, this will not affect the availability of permits in the derby rewards as permits and blueprints appear on different columns. Do you have an idea when it comes valley rewards? I rarely get permits. If I go below 16 blueprints, do you think that this will reduce the chances of permits appearing as valley reward, since blueprints may appear? I am not sure, I think I did not test it... Thanks a lot! Yes, the permits and blueprints in the derby have their dedicated rows. They will never appear in the same row (I haven’t seen it or heard it). With regard to the valley, I am in a test myself, to early to draw conclusions yet.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 13, 2022 9:55:04 GMT
Next derby is Bingo... I opted already out... 3 extra rewards, just prep well and you should be good to go, but I understand your choice.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 13, 2022 10:01:21 GMT
ducktown2021 I want to join Lily77 on this. Your hints are helpful indeed. Thanks from me, too. As you can see for this weeks rewards, I have 🧩 in row 3 and 6, but no permits in 4 and 7. If I want permits in those rows I need to reshuffle the rows. You also don’t see any blueprints in row 5 but that is because I already have 15 in stock. They don’t pop up in valley and derby rewards if you have 15 unused in stock. you can also see that I have an old deco in the row where also the permit will show up after reshuffling. row 1 and 2 (also a deco) are not visible in the picture attached. disclaimer; you might need to shuffle couple of times, spending diamonds to get what you want is always at own risk. 😉 I reshuffled and got the permits in the rows I mentioned above. But also a deco I like in the row with 🧩, so I skipped the puzzle piece in that row and selected the deco. Attachments:
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Post by Tahoe 🐾 on Jun 13, 2022 10:23:16 GMT
Ducktown, may I ask how many times you had to shuffle? (It's ok, if you'd rather not say). That's one of the deco I was hoping to get. Only shuffled once, and no additional deco showed up.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 13, 2022 10:24:20 GMT
I also shuffled twice. But no improvement, sadly. Usually stuff, 1 permit after all, and 1 gnome. It's ok. You can't always be lucky. Last time I got the deco with the horse and the chicken. I think I have to wait for the next deco.
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Post by ducktown2021 on Jun 13, 2022 10:31:05 GMT
Ducktown, may I ask how many times you had to shuffle? (It's ok, if you'd rather not say). That's one of the deco I was hoping to get. Only shuffled once, and no deco at all. Twice. First shuffle the permit on the right showed up. I selected that one and reshuffled again. Than the permit on the left showed up and the deco in the right row with the puzzle piece. I already had that deco, but still……, I also had gnomes in other rows. Because I wheat a lot for the drops and to please my daily traders, I get a lot of mining tools I use to get the diamonds for the shuffling (if needed).
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Post by Tahoe 🐾 on Jun 13, 2022 10:33:46 GMT
I also shuffled twice. But no improvement, sadly. Usually stuff, 1 permit after all, and 1 gnome. It's ok. You can't always be lucky. Last time I got the deco with the horse and the chicken. I think I have to wait for the next deco. Before shuffling, I had the (usual) santa gnome and the giant horseshoe/horse head deco (that I already have). Love to get one of the new ones. And, I think with the many platforms providing feedback to SC, the deco rarely (or even never) requested should be removed as rewards.
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Post by 🌼GymGirl🌺 on Jun 13, 2022 10:35:30 GMT
ducktown2021 THX again for your detailed explanation and the informative screenshot. I'll keep it in mind for next Monday. I'm done with Mystery, but only because I was fed up about the length of tasks at the beginning. I accelerated with diamonds. Fortunately the last task with 400 was the train. I was relieved. Conclusion for me? NEVER, NEVER Mystery again. I'm done and I'll never try again. I'm always unlucky, always. No change in sight. I won't test my "luck" again on this. I understand Donkeyfan, I don’t do mystery derbies at all. I will most likely do the bingo one though.
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Post by donkeyfan on Jun 13, 2022 11:57:40 GMT
I also shuffled twice. But no improvement, sadly. Usually stuff, 1 permit after all, and 1 gnome. It's ok. You can't always be lucky. Last time I got the deco with the horse and the chicken. I think I have to wait for the next deco. Before shuffling, I had the (usual) santa gnome and the giant horseshoe/horse head deco (that I already have). Love to get one of the new ones. And, I think with the many platforms providing feedback to SC, the deco rarely (or even never) requested should be removed as rewards. I had NO gnomes before I shuffled. I got 1 gnome due to shuffling. Of course I didn't select the gnome. On the one hand I have plenty and secondly I placed none. I consider them as ugly and pretty unwelcome. Hopefully SC gets the message and eliminate them once and for all.
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